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Recieved: 2002/08/01 04:00
Subject: [K-list] Re: Paranoia (done) to death.
From: shunyatauk
On 2002/08/01 04:00, shunyatauk posted thus to the K-list:
Hello Sabrina,
I've just come on line for the first time this week some
observations that I wish to post, and with little time to get them
down before the moment passes I have only read your preivious post as
a starter. However, your post is about as apt as it's going to get.
I've had a recent relationship with this problem(paranoia, and what
you said tied in with a book on the subject that I read at the
weekend: G.K.Chesterton, "The Man who was Thursday".
A Man is enlisted as a Secret philosophical policemen, who's job it
is to stop those thought crimes of the anarchists of whom they
believe are a secret society plotting to take over the world with
disorder. Our Hero finds himself enlisted by a man who sits in a dark
room, and who's face no-one has ever seen. Apparently through his
(hero) own efforts he manages to get on the secret commitee of Seven,
and is appropriated the position of Thursday. It is seen over by the
head of the council, Sunday. blah blah blah. Turns out every one in
the commitee is a member of the secret police, except the enigmatic
Sunday, who is the man who enlisted them all from the Shadows of his
dark room.
If anyone wants to read it, I havn't given anything away that isn't
instinctivly remebered in the first line or so. Full of imagery and
symbol's of symbolism that I havn't a clue with.
To go on. To go on with some thoughts that have also been occuping
me, and to which I could only give them shape a day or so ago.
It had occured to me that I had two choices in respect
of "Enlightenment". It was either, thought I, the accumulation of
history's friuts coming foward in an ego which would inevitably pass
away, the friuts of which are us.
Either..or, it was the manifestation of some other foundation that
is mediated through the particular epoch it's situated in while
retaining the aspect of One, Being, etc. Thus one would be able to
find the answers to the same questions thousands of years into the
past(Plato, Heraclitus, Nagarjunia and so on). History would have
made, no progress, and the modern condition was not the result of
some prolonged experiment with language, but perhaps a forgetting, or
a mediation with the eternal.
It dosn't seem as good a distintion as at first, but perhaps between
a temporal or eternal conception. Now while I was thinking this I
walked into a book shop and picked up a book called "The
Philosopher's Secret Fire", by somebody I now can't remember. This
book professed to be revealing the "golden chain", of thinkers that
had existed throughout the ages and had acted as a secret society
inasmuch as you couldn't understand the message they were writing
unless you were of the same mind as them, for it is not as though you
symbolise and sign/signifier to understand. One must cease to "think"
and become a part of the stream, so that a work on the secret society
necessarily became part of the cannon, as does someone who
understands.
But is this, I thought, Either ..or? What does it mean, what does
it mean?
I know the answer now, I think, but I am unable to uderstand it.
Perhaps because I am now using my ego, I don't know. But the answer
seems to be the Third dimension, or Depth. What do I mean? I'm not
sure. but whether the Third dimension refers to this specific
problem, as indeed it might, or whether it is the answer to any,
Either...or question(Deleuze), I don't know.
Depth.
once more, hi, Sabrina.
There is a difference between madness and insanity, my little book
told me. Madness is the free play of the imagination with ITSELF, and
insanity is imagination palying with things other than itself, things
which "really exist", like ego. Eternity. We should not be afraid of
going mad, for it is only this fear that could possibly drive us
insane.
i've not talked to any deamons myself, as of yet. Patience/Anticipation
Shunyatauk.
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