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Recieved: 2002/07/19  12:28  
Subject: RE: [K-list] what causes K?  JUSTIN 
From: Meredith, Justin
  
On 2002/07/19  12:28, Meredith, Justin posted thus to the K-list: both are my names so no need to apologize. )  i wouldn't say i was scared 
out of my wits, just nervous. i think it would be terrifying for someone if 
they were not so open minded about going out of body. the blue orb didn't 
seem that weird for me since i have (since my experiences) always visualized 
consciousness as electricity. and since an orb is the most energy efficient 
configuration it made sense to me that i would view my true self as an orb 
of energy. now for other people, this might seem strange - especially if 
they see their true selves as some other form. i guess we are shown what is 
most acceptable to our own thoughts and imagination - that way we know when 
we are definitely having some sort of experience. as for feeling 
consciousness (maybe i am misunderstanding the question here) - that's what 
those vibes are. you. just a higher state of your own consciousness. 
 
   
  
 Hi Justin.....again, I'm sorry about the name mix-up!!   
 Anyway, that experience you spoke of is WEIRD!!! LOL!   
 I wonder why there's so many scary things that go along  
 with this???  I just want a peaceful and loving  
 experience, not all of this other stuff! HA!!  Yes, I  
 can imagine how scary that must have been for you.  I  
 know I will probably panic when I have my first real  
 obe!!!  ;)  I seem to do it when I am "sleeping" a lot!  
  I go places and meet people and have ALL kinds of  
 heavy-duty information given to me all the time.  Have  
 also had contact with the Pleidians through these type  
 of experiences.  Didn't even know who they were before!  
  One time I thought I went to the Other Side, cos  
 Einstein was there, as well as a lot of other famous  
 people.  They were all giving me lots of information.   
 It was sooo weird. I wonder if these are really dreams  
 or if it's actual obe's???  I wonder why I can't feel  
 conscious??  Do you know why???   Kathi 
  "Meredith, Justin" wrote:yes that is my last name. i  
 don't believe there is a person that wouldn't be 
 scared of leaving the body for the first time -  
 especially if it is not 
 spontanious (where you have no control anyway). i have  
 done relaxation 
 techniques and i have experienced things that made me  
 think "oh sh*t, 
 something is happening now" and that will break the  
 concentration right 
 there. one time i had a very lucid experience when i  
 was sleeping - i saw 
 this blue orb of light inside of my head and it was  
 crackeling like thunder. 
 seemed like i was getting out - but i don't consciously  
 remember leaving. it 
 happened three times so i figure that i left and came  
 back several times. 
   
   
  
  
  
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