To: K-list 
Recieved: 2002/07/19  11:03  
Subject: RE: [K-list] New here and very scared!!! MEREDITH 
From: Kathi
  
On 2002/07/19  11:03, Kathi posted thus to the K-list:  
Hi Again!  No, I don't think my experiences are from the fibro.  I think that Sammy's death has prompted all of this lately......I too have had a terrible time with migraine's in the past, but now I hardly get them anymore!  THANK GOD!!!  That's really cool that it feels as if your brain is being massaged!!!  Life is soooo strange!!  I doubt that we can ever fully understand all of this now, while living on earth.  It's all just too weird for me!!!  Well, I think I'll go for my daily walk now and try to sort through all of this!  Maybe more answers will come as I walk.  Hugs, Kathi 
  
  
 "Meredith, Justin" wrote:so the pain is not a result of the vibrations, correct? that was what i was 
asking. i don't experience pain from the vibrations at all. matter of fact i 
have experienced the opposite. i suffer from migraines and sometimes when i 
feel the vibes they actually release the pressure from the migraine - it 
feels like someone is massaging my brain. 
 
i am not sure if your experiences are a result of your fibromyalgia - it 
could be. but i would bet that it is from losing your loved one on July 4th.
 
 
  
  
 Meredith.....I'm reading some exerpts from that guys  
 book on Amazon.  It's pretty interesting!!  The pain  
 really started when I got Lyme Disease back in 95 but  
 it has led to fibromyalgia.  At least that's what the  
 Dr.'s have said.  Who really knows though!! ;)  it's  
 just AWFUL!!!  I am hoping that I will somehow be  
 helped through all of this that i'm going through now!   
 Let's hope so anyway!!  It's been so bad that I've  
 thought of taking my life many, many times, but never  
 would. Just feel like it!  Do you suppose it is  
 actually related to all of this instead???? 
   
   
  "Meredith, Justin" wrote:what they are calling K is  
 the vibrational experience, which can be a 
 precursor to OBEs - especially if you are experiencing  
 paralysis! i know it 
 may be frightening to be paralyzed but it might lead to  
 something better! is 
 the pain caused by the vibrations or is it something else? 
  
 -----Original Message----- 
 From: Kathi [mailto:moonchildpnATnospamyahoo.com] 
 Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 9:32 AM 
 To: Meredith, Justin 
 Subject: RE: [K-list] New here and very scared!!! 
  
  
  
 Hi Meredith,  
  
  
 How come we can't just hit reply on this group??? I've  
 never seen that 
 happen before on any other Yahoo group. Oh well. Thanks  
 for replying. So 
 you think it's just a precursor to an OBE and not K??  
 Regarding your 
 question of pain, the answer is YES!!! I am in constant  
 chronic pain and 
 have been told that I have fibromyalgia. There isn't  
 one spot on my body 
 that is without pain. What does that have to do with  
 it?? Just curious! I 
 will check out that book you spoke of. Thanks. Kathi  
  
  
  
 "Meredith, Justin" wrote:  
  
  
 Hi Kathi 
  
 when you reply to the K-List you have to manually - but  
 i see that you just 
 figured that out so that is good. i was going to answer  
 your question anyway 
 (isn't that weird?) because i am familiar with your  
 predictament. 
  
 while i don't experience paralysis from the vibrational  
 state, i know that 
 it is a common experience. i don't know if you are  
 familiar with the author 
 Robert Monroe, but he describes this state exactly as  
 you have described it 
 in his book "Journeys Out Of Body". you should read  
 this book - it will 
 probably help you understand a little more about this  
 state - as it is a 
 precurser to OBEs.  
  
 are you experiencing any pain from this state (my guess  
 is that you are 
 not)? from a physcial and physiological standpoint,  
 nothing is wrong. the 
 vibrations are really no cause for concern, there are a  
 lot of people that 
 have this same experience. Monroe's book is a really  
 good start for you i 
 feel on understanding this a bit more as it seems that  
 you are having 
 similar experiences... 
  
  
  
 Hello Group!  
  
  
 My name is Kathi and I just joined this group last  
 night, because I need to 
 understand what in the heck is going on with me!! I'm  
 sure you've all heard 
 this a million times, but please bear with me, as it's  
 pretty new to me!  
  
  
 All of this actually started with me back in 1972 when  
 it happened a couple 
 of times and I had NO idea what K. was so it REALLY  
 scared me back then, 
 when I was in my early 20's, but it's just now started  
 happening again ALL 
 the time and although it still frightens me, I THINK it  
 may be part of the 
 K. awakening, but I'm not real sure. Would like some  
 advice on it, if 
 possible.  
  
  
 First off, I've been having a LOT of brain activity,  
 where it feels like the 
 inside of my brain is being moved around!! I know it  
 sounds nuts, but it's 
 like someone is in there making adjustments!! LOL!!  
  
  
 Then I get this AWFUL electrical surge through my whole  
 being!! It feel's 
 as though a bolt of lightening is going through me!!! I  
 am paralyzed and 
 when I try to scream, I can't! I shake and shake and  
 shake, just as if I'm 
 being electrocuted!! Is this normal??? It's gotten to  
 the point where I'm 
 afraid to close my eyes at night!! As soon as I start  
 drifting off to sleep 
 it happens, so it makes me afraid to go to sleep!  
  
  
 I think I may have even had this as a child, because I  
 remember a few times 
 being so afraid that I couldn't speak or move and it  
 always happened at 
 night.  
  
  
 I don't feel any activity in my spine, though. It's  
 always movement and 
 buzzing within my head!! Do you think this is K, or  
 should I see a Dr.??? 
 I had a dream a few months ago that there was something  
 seriously wrong 
 inside my brain and that I was going to die soon. I  
 don't know if that was 
 a prophetic dream or just telling me that my life was  
 about to change.  
  
  
 Sure would appreciate any input from anyone who is  
 enlightened on this 
 subject. What in the world causes K. anyway???  
  
  
 Thanks for listening. 
 Love and Light, 
 Kathi V.  
 
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