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Recieved: 2002/07/19  07:28  
Subject: Re: [K-list] *what if* ?...was"Projections" 
From: Grant -
  
On 2002/07/19  07:28, Grant - posted thus to the K-list:  
Thats an interesting but very large "what if". 
It would be no more difficult to turn that question around and say...
 
"what if... WHAT IF... coming to terms with our spiritual selves and moving  
on past this plane of existance that we are clinging to is the next step in  
evolution, and those who blindly drone around with their  physical lives are  
missing the big picture? What if the universal force is calling for us to  
return, for another round of hide and seek?"
 
Or maybe the big challenge is to stop asking these questions. Perhaps the  
final path is to stop chosing paths in the first place. Maybe we are given  
one illusion after the other, and its how we accept this, and find an  
equilibrium within this given illusion, physical or otherwise to develope.  
To try and escape into another illusion (astral) or to cling fearfully to  
this one (physical) may be equal deformities.
 
*shrug*
 
Or maybe the term deformity is an illusion as well, and I'm just being  
presumptuous to think that we can go against the game that is existance at  
all. Everything is a manifestation of the light no? Even darkness...
 
-Grant----Original Message Follows---- 
From: "lavinaleone" <lavinaleoneATnospamsofthome.net> 
To: K-list  
Subject: [K-list] *what if* ?...was"Projections" 
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 06:50:05 -0000
 
 --- In Kundalini-GatewayATnospamy..., --Shiva-- <shivanowATnospamp...> wrote: 
 > 
 > > From what I understand the astral body is motivated by a higher 
body 
 > >of pure thought.  It is to the astral body what the astral is to 
the 
 > >physical.  It is possible to separate this but one must be very 
 > >advanced.  I know many people who strive to wake up on the higher 
 > >planes who haven't awoken on the physical, yet.  This is like 
trying 
 > >to build a house with no foundation and what is more only building 
 > >the attic. 
 > > 
 > >Joshua Shivahmurti 
 >
 
In a weekly group I attended this evening the subject matter got 
tangled up around a members suicide last week. The usual debates 
about suicide were pushed aside when one member made a remark that is 
the reversal of this. I do not recall his exact wording but basicly 
he was saying that the reason for spiritual quests to rejoin 
the 'collective' is a backwards step for those who are unable to keep 
up with the progress of spirit. And it is those who can not cut it 
wish to return to what is already known, and comfortable. The 
advanced spiritual persons are those who have the courage and the 
staying power to move beyond what is known, to stick it out on *this* 
plane. He supports his ideas with, among other things, that anyone 
can die, and be sucked back into the big spiritual all,  although 
(most) cling to life here as long as possible physical death is still 
inevitable. Yet,The search for immortality in the physical has been 
an obsession for mankind. 
It made me think, *what if* we have been side tracked with getting 
back to where we have already been and we are being led by our 
heartstrings backwards in our evolution and not forward . 
*what if*? 
It does not seem so far fetched an idea as it did at first. It is 
said that we all have abilities like ESP and the ability to do these 
astral things, and we already know all there is to know and there is 
this great ALL that we are all a part of. *what if* that is true and 
our insistance on trying to return to that ALL turns out to be the 
end all of our evolution. 
*what if* our dissatisfation with the rough road in the physical and 
our quest to return to the old but known and comfortable and safe 
turns out to be the destrution of our spiritual species, like the 
creatures who no longer thrive because they could not adapt.________ 
-"Your path is mine."_____________ 
  
 
 
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