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Recieved: 2002/07/18 05:45
Subject: Re: [K-list] -Projections + a bit about Healing (passing on info)
From: lionessbleu1
On 2002/07/18 05:45, lionessbleu1 posted thus to the K-list:
--- In Kundalini-GatewayATnospamy..., ktyka <ktykaATnospamy...> wrote:
>
> Dear Susan: Thanks for the reply! First I have to start by saying
using the word healing was used wrongly and I appoligize for that
mishap... I do not want to heal my friend, only help him help
himself.
Dear Katie,
I am going to talk about this topic in extreme examples.
Helping someone help themself is where healing begins...IF you have
their consent. Otherwise it is like going up to a fat person on the
street and assuming they want our help and telling them they need to
lose weight. How presumptuous of us to assume we have the only answer
that they may be looking for. How presumptuous of us to assume that
they have no idea they are in pain and we must "kindly" point out to
them how they can have a more ideal body. Besides being presumptuous
and selfish this is so rude.
Would someone presume to go up to a person in a wheelchair and
say "you can walk if you do this." A person may protest and say
that "I would never say that to someone in a wheelchair. Of course,
it is obvious that they can't walk." No,it is not so obvious that
they can't. No one knows but them why they are in the wheelchair. It
may have nothing to do with the presumptions we make in our mind. It
very well could be a temporary situation and not a permanent
situation. A person could go up and talk to them about walking again
without permission I suppose.
What if you found out that it was a temporary situation? And you knew
the solution? Are you going to just tell them the solution and then
walk away and say, "have a nice day?" Or are you not only going to
tell them the solution but you are going to stick around and
responsibly contribute and participate to that resolution even if it
takes a year or more?
Training a person to walk again is a huge investment of time, money,
and emotions. Are you willing to pay the price?
If you are, then go for it. They can always say "No, mind your own
business." But then you will feel better cause you asked although
they may now feel awful again cause someone else has pointed out once
more how they are failing to live up to other people's standards.
I know this may seem to play out to absurdity in these examples but
it is germane.
>Let me explain, what I have done is give him some reading about the
>ego and a bit on meditation (by the way he did ask). I see it as a
>sharing of information. This world of meditation and healing was
opened to me by anothers passing of info. so I am doing the same and
what he does with that info. is in his hands. maybe not the right way
is the eyes of others but a way ...
If you think it maybe not the right way in the eyes of others this
activity is not totally clean in your energy. If it was clean you
would not need to justify your action. If your energy is totally
clean and you are unconditional love we wouldn't be having this
conversation. :)
> Like I said I used the term healing wrongly. When you use "healing"
what do you mean. I do not have any answers and I am not or am not
trying to be a savior of some sort. I do not believe that I am
bothered by my friends condition (if that is the word to call it), I
will be his friend no matter what and accept him for who he is no
matter what.
Healing is being available by consent to assist people in their own
process of becoming healed. They are the guide and we are the servant.
You must be bothered or affected by his condition otherwise this
wouldn't be a hot spot for you.
Being his friend no matter what and loving him no matter what is
great if you are loving him and being his friend on his terms not
yours.
I may use extreme examples but the intent of the helper is still the
same regardless of whether it is a big problem or a little problem.
Why see a problem at all? Why not just be love and see perfection
wherever you look?
If we/you/I are helping someone without consent we will end up being
resented, consciously or subconsciously, no matter how little that
resentment might be and no matter how powerfully this person was
healed. Why? Cause we think of that person as a little less than
perfection when we do not look at them through the eyes of perfect
love. We only see what has helped us, what works for us in our own
perceived shortcomings. We can only give love with the measure that
we love ourselves. If we look at others and see only their misery
because "gee, I sure was miserable when I did that...they must be
miserable too" what do we create for ourselves and them? More misery
because we are focusing on what we see and not what they are, what we
are.
Do not discount the power of seeing only perfection where you look.
If you see only beauty and love a mystical magickal work will begin.
Can we even think that there might even be a miracle? :)
This mystical magickal ability we have as humans works best when we
can look at ourselves in the mirror and see only love, and beauty and
perfection. I still work on it.> I agree with this to a certain degree, but I do not believe that I
>am being selfish, only being a friend passing on info that has
helped me... no shoving of matterial down his throat... but whos to
say, Thanks! Katie
Shoving is a matter of personal perception both to the receiver and
the giver. So is being selfish... Nothing wrong with being selfish.
If you can be at peace with your intent in this experience isn't that
what counts? If you need to explain or justify your behaviour to
someone you are not at peace in your heart.
Been there, done that, still do that. Just sharing from my own
experiences.
The last imperfect human being on this planet,
Susan
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