To: K-list
Recieved: 2002/05/28 09:08
Subject: Re: [K-list] Inquiring mind would like to know
From: bhutanbodhi
On 2002/05/28 09:08, bhutanbodhi posted thus to the K-list:
> If you're not enlightened already, how can you get there anyway?
well, enlightenment isn't exactly a place. At least that's been my
experience. Now, it occors in what maybe defined as a place in
space/time, but you don't just "get there". Is there a way to get to
space/time? No, it's already there.
> Its only a feeling, or a way of experiencing life.
That depends what your perception of what enlightenment "is". How do
you really know until you are enlightened? How many question will be
needed to be asked before one becomes enlightened? Now, from my
understanding there are many teachings as to how to become
enlightened, yet one goal? Or does it depend one what goals are
grasped and perceived?
I do have an inclination to lean towards the dependancy of why one
wishes to undertand enlightenment as well as, subjecting their bodies
and minds in an attempt to discover what it means to become fully
enlightened and awake.
> Why go on a journey to set your self free,
> when the idea of both freedom, and slavery are in the mind?
Well, if the ideas of freedom and slavery are in the mind, does it
not
depend on how the mind is viewing these two almost apparent paradoxes?
I'm thinking at this momment that the understanding of what freedom
and slavely mean to the individual are important, and relative to
subjective experience and thier surrounding, for everything seems to
evolve yet remain the same, for example, hate; it has it fuction in
society and changes it's face from the objects of hate, however, the
general sense within the realm of "human" experience is the same. If
we take the view of slavery in the context of labour value, and what
workers and their minds are bodies are subjected to, does it have the
same view as a slave to a dominatrix? Same goes with freedom, and
you
take the view of lets say a Native American who refuses to fall into
the process of assimilation or a member of the free-masons, are these
views of freedom the same? What do their defenitions entail?
Now, one could also take enlightenment and the example of the word
with defenitions, too, but then somethings are truly unexplainable,
and i wonder why that is?
> Everything's silly!
> (Or maybe I've been sleep deprived and I think I should go pet my
cat.)
hmm, sitting contemplating the physiological reactions to the purring
of cats...and remembering the wild winds of ecstacy of psilocybin...
and all that vibin...
~)
take care
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