To: K-list 
Recieved: 2002/05/22  06:56  
Subject: [K-list] Vik and cultural values 
From: lionessbleu1
  
On 2002/05/22  06:56, lionessbleu1 posted thus to the K-list: --- In Kundalini-GatewayATnospamy..., "Vik Chopra" <vikchopsATnospamh...> wrote: 
>  
> Greetings, 
>  
> I write regarding three things. First, I don't think that this is  
an  
> appropriate forum to use language like "F*&%" etc. This forum also  
uses  
> divine terminology like OM. I was born Hindu. I find it offensive.  
Would you  
> consider you consider swear words appropriate language in a temple?
 Hi Vik,
 
I do consider this place as sacred space. I do run my own list where  
I have temple elders to hold and maintain sacred space for safety of  
the members. They are very powerful people.
 
When a person is in the throes of k rising it is not unusual for  
people to use language that may offend another. This not only normal  
but can be expected. What safer place for people to express how they  
are feeling in the moment than in a temple, God's house. Why not ask  
yourself what it is within yourself that reacts so strongly? The  
flowing of emotions is cathartic and I rarely see on this list people  
being abusive with language. I am a moderator and have been on this  
list almost from the beginning of it's inception.
 
>  
> Secondly, I think one person on the list sent out a message  
yesterday  
> something to the effect "While I was meditating, I felt a strange  
sensation.  
> Do y'all think it's in response to latest Al Quaeda threats?" I  
honestly  
> felt afraid. Do you think it's trendy to talk about that things  
such as this  
> in this forum? Someone else commented about George W. Bush.  
Politics, in my  
> opinion, should NOT be integrated with religion. It's just not  
right.
 
This is your opinion and you are welcome to hold onto it. Please  
reread the list guidelines that stress the respect of all religious  
and spiritual pathways. This list is international in scope and  
represents just about any and every path out there. What unites us  
all is being a family of kundalites.
 
We occasionally talk about politics here as it reflects or affects  
our spiritual path and our growing in our kundalini experience. I  
think the question is appropriate.
 
>  
> Thirdly, at the bottom of many mails there's some  
site "dominaterex" or  
> something. For me, a dominaterex produces a negative image. I feel  
that this  
> is not the appropriate forum for such imagery. Can the list owner  
please  
> remove?
 
The list owner is the "dominaterex".  :D I think it is important for  
you to begin to understand why you are so intolerant of all the  
different ways spirituality and God/dess is expressed in our world.  
What makes this list wonderful is it's diversities in beliefs and  
understanding of the Divine. If you wish this list to behave more in  
a Hindu fashion then look to a Hindu list to do that.
 
>  
> Here's why point 2 is important if you are interested: in my  
opinion, by  
> making comments correlating religion and spirituality to politics  
and  
> propagating on this list, you are implicitly showing a lack of  
faith in God.  
> We all know Osama is on crack and that politics is innately short  
term  
> oriented.
 
And what is so wrong about showing a lack of faith in God?. Do you  
think that offends God or that He cares that someone has a lack of  
faith? God is a big boy. He can take care of Himself. He doesn't need  
us humans defending Him. Wars come about from people thinking they  
are defending God's honor. If He did need us looking after Him, I  
don't think He would really be God if He wasn't big enough to take  
care of Himself. Of course, it is really stupid and disrespectful of  
me to think that God thinks and acts like a human being for God is  
not human with human desires or weaknesses, or is He?
 
Of course, these are only my own opinions.
 
Your maya may vary, 
Susan 
Moderator
 
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