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Recieved: 2002/05/18  21:37  
Subject: Re: [K-list] boundaries was MAs Comments on 993 
From: marsha marsha
  
On 2002/05/18  21:37, marsha marsha posted thus to the K-list: Laura, Mystress,
 
Your struggle is very familiar to me.  I also struggle to be not just living  
up to what others hope and expect to find in me.  For myself, I think I am  
able to give others that I choose, some of what they need from me, even if  
it costs me something in the giving, because I have a position full of  
blessings and richness, emotionally and spiritually. In other words, I have  
much, I can give some without noticing it.  My problems come in when I have  
given more than I can afford.  I have to remember that in order to have  
something to give, I need to be continually renewing and replenishing myself  
by seeking oneness with God.  If I get too busy, I hurt myself AND I have  
nothing left to give. 
  All of my life, apparently, my heart chakra has been open.  I have delt  
with that in many ways, but the way that seems to work the best is to take  
the same care of me/mine that I would of others.  If I were to see others  
putting up with crap that I was putting up with, and think that people were  
taking advantage or they were using themselves up for no gain, then I give  
myself the same advice on getting out of the situation that I would give  
them if they were to ask. 
  I don't always follow through on this, and I have at times paid for that,  
but I at least like to be aware that I am fulfilling others needs and  
desires, instead of blindly doing so unaware that I am spending me to buy  
them.  I think (my opinion) that anyone who is open to others really needs  
to pick up some personal boundaries and learn how defend themselves in this  
way.  If you don't, you will give yourself away until there is nothing left.  
  I learned this the hard way. 
  I also think that you can be giving and open with some people and  
situations and it only renews you, not depletes.  That might be when their  
perceptions and desires match your own. 
  And Laura, you are very sweet and open, and I am very glad you were  
willing to share of your experiences this way.  Mystress, the same to you.
 
Love, 
Marsha
  
>From: "Laura " <dafmobileATnospamhotmail.com> 
>wrote 
 
>what you said about sensitivity to projections strongly reverberated with 
>me.  lately i have been working on developing strong boundaries and 
>groundedness to fortify so that i can protect myself from the constant 
>chameleoning and then struggling to dig myself out of the mire of 
>identification to simply arrive back at my own clarity of self. 
> 
>i don't even really know yet what i mean by good boundaries or how that 
>would feel, tho i am trying to gently visualize 
> 
> >From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mystressATnospamfire-serpent.com> wrote 
> >    I am 
> >very sensitive to projections... if I am not mindful, I get caught in  
>them.
  
>"If a tree wants to reach to the sky, its roots need to go to the very  
>hell" 
>Nietzsche
  
 
 
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