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Recieved: 2002/05/09  11:10  
Subject: [K-list] RE: What sort of child Poll 
From: Giovanna Guimaraes
  
On 2002/05/09  11:10, Giovanna Guimaraes posted thus to the K-list: Hi Everyone,
 
 
 
I was a very different child. Let me start with my birth. I had to be 
born through caesarian section because I was backwards. I was a very 
quiet baby that got sick twice only and that had bowl movement trouble. 
 
My mother told me that she had to stop with birthday parties when I was 
three years old because I seemed to hate children. She said I was very 
angry with the sight of other kids in my house. Needless to say, school 
was agonizing and traumatizing. I was this very shy and fearful girl who 
was picked on most of the time. That caused me to want to be invisible. 
I lived in fear and knew nothing beyond that. And my mother was right, 
with few exceptions, I did hate other kids. I tried my best to be around 
adults because that was the only way I felt at ease. This all happened 
in Catholic school (from 4 years old to about 8 years old). Even though 
I was not baptized and did no communion, my parents managed to put and 
keep me in Catholic school. I leaned how to pray during those years. I 
must have learned about the devil in those years as well. But to me the 
devil were the kids in school. LOL!! 
 
At age 6, my paternal grandmother passed away and I found myself talking 
to God. I asked: If Jesus resuscitated why can´t my granny do the same? 
That was probably the birth of my hate toward Catholicism and its 
hypocrisy (don´t mean any offense to Catholics on this list as this is 
my experience and everybody´s experiences and opinions are valid and 
acceptable to me). 
 
When I was 8 years old we moved to another area of the city and I had to 
change schools. This time I went to a Montessorian school. I was still 
picked on but it was not was bad as the Catholic school. During this 
time I started having trouble with math and with the astral world. I 
also developed interest in biology and books. I´d spend my afternoons 
climbing trees, analyzing the lives of the chicken and the rooster in 
the henhouse my mother had in the back yard and the tons of ants that 
lived in my mother´s food garden. Then, at night, I´d hear my marbles (I 
was very jealous of those marbles) as if somebody was playing with them. 
I´d get up and turn the light on just to find my marbles exactly the way 
I had left them. This would happen every night. I developed so much 
anger toward whatever played with those marbles. Then, objects of mine 
started to disappear for a while to reappear later at the same spot they 
belonged and that I had looked for several times. That just increased my 
anger. My grandmother was into spirituality (her religion is called 
espiritismo) and she told my mother that spirits were playing games 
with me. She then took me to this man who made everything go away. From 
that point on, I seemed to have become invisible. I had this tremendous 
feeling of not fitting in. But my parents don´t fit in either so I was 
comfortable at home. I lived in a dream world. I´d day dream all day, at 
home, in school, while walking in the street even while talking to 
somebody. Everything in this dream world was different than my reality 
and I´d write it all down instead of doing home work. Needless to say, 
my grades dropped. Daydreaming lasted until I moved to the US at age 20. 
It hasn´t completely gone away but it has diminished by 80%. 
 
During adolescence, I´d spend my afternoons writing about my day dreams 
and reading books on philosophy, psychology, spirituality and ancient 
world. I was obsessed with finding the absolute truth. All I found was 
personal truth. I wanted nothing to do with personal truth. I wanted to 
know God´s thoughts as that was the only thing that mattered to me. I 
haven´t changed at all about this. God´s thought to me is all that 
matters and everything else is just a detail. I think Einstein said 
something like this. Thinking like this made any religion or cult 
impossible for me to embrace as I saw them all as personal truths 
applicable only to the duality world we live in. The thirst of knowing 
what the absolute truth was haunted me throughout my entire adolescence. 
I couldn´t embrace a white bearded sitting in a throne God or a God that 
rewards and punishes. Yet, I was not ready to take responsibility for 
all my actions. No wonder why I was so confused. I couldn´t yet grasp 
the idea that I could be God. That came in adulthood (I´ll save it for 
another poll). 
 
The first time I heard of Kundalini was through my parents´ conversation 
about the topic. I was younger than 15 although already in adolescence. 
My antennas went up immediately as the conversation stroke my mind and I 
was drawn to it like a magnet is drawn to metal. I never forgot about it 
and last year I found myself incredibly drawn to it again and that´s how 
I found this list. 
 
Anyway, it was during adolescence that I started observing that I really 
didn´t want to come to this world of separateness and ended up coming 
anyway. I also realized that my reactions to the world were reactions to 
not wanting to be here in the relative realm (that´s how I call our 
reality) and its duality. I´ve been always eager to go back home (what 
I call the absolute realm). I found everything so boring. No wonder why 
I could easily sleep for 15 hours straight! Teenage girls in my class 
wanted to go out dancing and to date boys. I wanted to go home and day 
dream. LOL!!! And when I did go out with them, I was bored to hell, I 
felt so lonely and my desire to go back home increased. They all 
reminded of that Who I Was Not yet I didn´t know Who I Was. It was all 
painfully confusing. I´ll stop now as I can write about childhood and 
adolescence for hours and hours and hours
. I hope I didn´t get off on a 
tangent as I tend to do that when talking about my early years. As I 
solve the puzzle of my existence, I find it harder and harder to talk 
about a part of the puzzle without mentioning the whole puzzle.  
 
 
 
Namaste,
 
Giovanna
 
 
 
--- In Kundalini-GatewayATnospamy..., druoutATnospama... wrote:
 
In a message dated 5/3/2002 8:33:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
 
LBra782595ATnospama... writes:
 
 
 
 
 
> it has been perfectly clear from a very young age that I was not quite 
the same as everyone else.
 
 
 
Dear List,
 
 
 
Sorry for back to back polls, but since we seem to be dealing with our 
early years, I thought I'd do a poll which I have wanted to do for ages, 
on what we 
 
were like as children.  A friend recently wrote:  
 
 
 
"Try [a poll] one day with regard to what people who become mystics were 
like as a child.  That one interest me very much, for as you know, I 
insist that
 
mystics are born not made during this lifetime.  And absolutely nothing 
to do with choice."
 
 
 
 I'll leave the question rather open ended.  :))
 
 
 
So: What sort of child were you?
 
 
 
My own quick response is: extremely shy and introspective.  
 
 
 
Thanks everyone!
 
 
 
Love, Hillary
  
 
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