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Recieved: 2002/04/25  12:45  
Subject: [K-list] Re: The Wall and Multiple Chakras 
From: Joseph Miller
  
On 2002/04/25  12:45, Joseph Miller posted thus to the K-list: Sorry I've been away for a while but thought I'd add a bit on the  
traditional Vedic take on this topic.
 
The three energy centers sound like you're trying to merge Taoism and  
Vedanta (or other Indian system). Save yourself some time, don't bother.  
They have different views of things and while pieces of them can be overlaid  
reasonably well, many don't overlay at all. I believe them to both be  
essentially correct. They are just disjoint and were developed with somewhat  
different goals in mind. I'd say the differences indicate the limitation of  
man understanding the creation of God more than anything else.
 
Thee three Taoist defined energy centers are also called the three minds by  
some, because the energy has an intelligence of its own. They are located at  
or near the third eye (upper), the heart (middle), and third chakra (lower).
 
As to the number of chakras question.... Traditionally only 7 are talked  
about but each of us has 21 MAJOR and lots and lots of minor chakras (minor  
ones would include those in the hands for example that can be activated and  
used for healing). There are 7 that are discussed extensively in the  
literature, which is what most people think of.
 
Those 7 are the work for this lifetime. To get there you had to work on 7  
that are below what we call 1st chakra. They are located from the ground up  
to 1st chakra. The 7th of those essentially overlaying what we call the  
first chakra at the base of our spine. It is those chakras that puppy and  
kitty are working on, along with all other creatures. Once they get to the  
7th in that set of the first 7 they get born as humans and get to work on  
the next 7 with the rest of us.
 
Skipping most of the stuff about the center 7 since everyone has heard lots  
about them already we get to the 7th of the center 7. Reaching Bindhu point  
there is defined as enlightenment. At that point you shift into the root or  
1st of the 3rd 7.  These are chakras that are mostly worked on in the  
astral, it takes lifetimes to get to Bindhu so there isn't a lot of time to  
work on them while in the body. Most work there is done as an astral being  
in most cases.
 
But very advanced human beings can work on them and they bring great gifts  
if they are achieved. I have met one person who was in his physical body who  
was also as far as the 3rd one of that set.
 
A few years ago Hinduism Today published an edition with a drawing of a sadu  
with all 21 chakras shown. It has been at least 3 years maybe as many as 5  
or even more since that edition. The discussion wasn't a lot but it was a  
good basic outline. If your library has back issues of it it would be worth  
looking through them if you have an interest in this topic.
 
Namaste,
 
Joe 
 
 
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