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Recieved: 2002/04/02 12:07
Subject: Re: [K-list] A Beautiful Mind
From: lillianferracone
On 2002/04/02 12:07, lillianferracone posted thus to the K-list:
Yes Jose, They simply do not understand those 'states'. Our psycholgists
do not know how to treat regressed states. However, I think with the advent
of more psychologist trained in humanistic psychology we eventualy will make
some progress. Lillian
----- Original Message -----
From: "José H" <jose.gitanaATnospamxs4all.nl>
To: "kundalini-gateway" <K-list >; "Christopher
Wynter" <lifestreamsATnospambigpond.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [K-list] A Beautiful Mind
> Hi Christopher,
>
> What disappointed me so much about this movie that in the end, the message
> that it sends out is that Nash is a worthy human being BECAUSE he wins the
> Nobel prize after succesfully returning to his former workingfield, IN
SPITE
> of having a disease, called Schizofrenia. Doesn't give any new insight
into
> the states that are experienced and mirror's present day thinking about
> those states - still mad and worthless if you don't win the Nobel
prize....
> Tell me something new.
>
> Jose
>
> >
> > There is a lot more to the movie than at first seems on the
> > surface. I have not seen it in full, but I have watched interviews
> > with both Russell Crowe and the person he portrayed - Nobel
> > Laureate Nash.
> >
> >
> > When asked if he thought someone else could have played him better,
> > all Nash could say of Crowe was that "he was a little bit short".
> >
> > But - Nash, also, in hindsight of the experiences of his earlier
> > years - which were labelled as "schizophrenia" - could say that the
> > voices he heard were the voices of his subconscious - and that, as
> > he moved through this stage, he likened it to the state which most
> > seek as "Enlightenment".
> >
> >
> > If you get the chance to watch the movie - or in fact any other of
> > Crowe's appearances - have a very close look at Crowe, his
> > mannerisms - and particularly his eyes. If you can, read his
> > energy.
> >
> > There was a lot that Nash did not say in the interview - and I feel
> > the reason behind this was to protect Crowe from some of the things
> > he had to go through - because he recognised, in him, a mirror of
> > himself.
> >
> >
> > The Inner Journey - that pathway to Enlightenment CAN seem like
> > schizophrenia - especially when one is on the inside looking out.
> >
> > Fortunately, in my own journey, I did not make what I heard wrong.
> > I accepted what I "knew" as best as I could - even though sometimes
> > the things that came up and out were sometimes a little hard to
> > take.
> >
> >
> > The paranoia that is experienced by schizophrenics is because this
> > state of "Inner Knowing" is made very wrong - by religion and
> > society.
> >
> >
> > My experience shows that there are many more people who are
> > carrying this inner knowing hidden deeply inside of them - afraid
> > of revealing it to others because they may be labelled "Mentally
> > Ill"
> >
> >
> > It is the fear of their knowing, and the pressures generated by the
> > need to hide their identity - even from themselves which eventually
> > created the "illness".
> >
> >
> > Many of those who seek "Enlightenment" as the solution for their
> > experiences are, in reality, merely seeking an understanding for
> > their condition.
> >
> > Unfortunately, just as the Western Medical and Psychological
> > Profession seeks to "Treat" those who are exhibiting symptoms of
> > "Enlightenment" with some sort of "Shock Treatment", there are
> > those Western Spiritual healers, therapists, masters and gurus who,
> > through their own lack of awareness and cognisance, miss-diagnose a
> > "Spiritual Emergence"
> >
> >
> > It is only when one has come out the other side of the
> > "Transpersonal Bands" or the Siddhis that one can understand (and
> > see) what is going on for another.
> >
> > And - you can't get this through reading books ..
> >
> > It is only when one has gone through the experience and come out
> > the other side that one can understand where one has been.
> >
> >
> > The rising of the Kundalini - the pursuit of Tantra - the seeking
> > of the rising of the Inner Spirit is not the path for everyone -
> > and there is no seeking or training or practice that can give one
> > the "Enlightenment Experience".
> >
> > This pathway can be fraught with great trauma for those who are
> > unprepared for the revelations that will come from the body as it
> > releases the hidden memories and knowings.
> >
> > One of the greatest of these traumas is the fear of "Going Mad"
> > and it is the fear of this label which, for the most part, stops
> > people from accepting that their "Enlightenment Experience" is
> > merely a glimpse of what is possible as their own personal
> > experience of "A Beautiful Mind".
> >
> >
> > It is only in the realisation of the "Beautiful Mind" that one can
> > fully comprehend the truth of "God", "Spirituality" and "Love".
> >
> >
> > --
> > Christopher Wynter,
> > ChristopherATnospamlifestreams.com.au
> >
> > http://www.anunda.com
> >
>
>
>
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