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Recieved: 2002/03/04  09:32  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: sinuses 
From: Joseph Miller
  
On 2002/03/04  09:32, Joseph Miller posted thus to the K-list: >>If you are going for the powers don't bother. They aren't guarenteed this  
>>way and there are easier ways to get them. But you need to ask "Why?"  
>>you're going for them. Unless it is for the greater good of your people,  
>>your family, others, etc. it will only harm you and those around you.  
>>Maybe not today, or tomorrow, or the next day, but sooner or later it will  
>>and the piper ain't cheap when you have to pay him. > 
>That really depends on if your protect your self...If you open your mind up  
>enough to receive these gifts, then you do have to protect your self..If  
>you ask an entity to open them up for you, then you might have to  
>"pay"...Reality though, shows me that we already always are using "powers",  
>constantly
 
It may be the verbal fashion, but you are dealing here with an old soul and  
to folks like me, fashion sucks! And is always damned stupid at the least,  
it was even when I was young enough and stupid enough to follow it.   
"Reality ... shows me," if you deconstruct it, implies the speaker has  
perfect preception of reality and never makes mistakes. I've spent some time  
around enlightened people, using the standard definition of the term as  
related to Kundalini, both walking around and floating around. Yes their  
knowledge was vast, their Inner Vision beyond belief to observe, but they  
made mistakes. In both perception and interpretation of what turned out to  
be the reality. Maybe it was because they were, or had been, human and were  
the created, not the Creator.
 
How about a bit of intellectual honesty and saying something like, "Based on  
my observations..." or "In my opinion..." something that actually is a  
factual statement and not extremely egocentric.
 
Yes this might have been a stronger reaction than most people might have to  
a bit of new age fluff language. But language is the tool we use to  
communicate our ideas. If our words have no meaning our ideas have no  
meaning. If our ideas have no meaning we are doomed, we will be without  
vision or a means to regain one. That is what hell is.
 
>I consider being conshiouly aware a "power" of its self, and most of these  
>abilities seem to actually come from simple awareness.
 
Very true. Awareness is also the hardest power for most of us to ever "get"  
in all the meanings of that word.
 
>>"Maybe not today, or tomorrow, or the next day, but sooner or later....." 
>is actually a saying many lower entities tell people. It is a loop for  
>fear, fear is a lie...People have said that saying before, all over the  
>world, but if something you have contacted has spoken that to you, I'd  
>question its purity, and its grip on your life.
 
See that explains why I care about language, we "lower entities" are like  
that.
 
If you are facing a couple of crackheads with guns who are pissed because  
your wallet only had a five dollar bill in it, believe me fear is NOT a lie.  
Fear is not usually the most productive response in a situation but it is  
valid and very very real.
 
One of the great benefits of fear is it creates caution. That saves lives,  
it keeps foolishness to a much lower level that it otherwise would be. May  
not be as ideal as wisdom would be for that task but if everyone had wisdom  
we wouldn't be living in this world we have today would we?
 
>Sacrifice is a thing of negative, sacrifice comes from the Christian  
>experience of God, spiritually, you only have balance.
 
"Sacrifice is a thing of negative" a truly interesting concept. Other than  
Ayn Rand I don't think I've ever heard someone say anything like that  
before.
 
The statement is so all encompassing. A mother's love is full of sacrifice,  
never knew that was a negative (or particularly Christian). A father who  
puts money into a college fund for his kids instead of buying that new rod  
or those golf clubs he yearns for is sacrificing, didn't know that was a  
negative either. Or a soldier who dies trying to pull a wounded buddy off  
the battlefield is a bad thing. An MD who works a couple of days a week for  
cash and most of the time works in a free clinic for the poor at no charge  
for his work.. I certainly never would have thought of that as a bad thing.
 
Since I admire all of those bad/negative things... does that mean I'm going  
over to the dark side??? Or could caring about others, being willing to give  
of yourself, reaching out to people, all of those things that take time away  
from the "fun things" we could be doing actually be a good thing. Could  
Mother Theresa be a good person, not one ruled by the negative?  I have my  
answer, Reality didn't call and give it to me, plain old common sense  
provided it.
 
Namaste,
 
Joe
 
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