To: K-list
Recieved: 2002/02/20 14:37
Subject: [K-list] Re: Kundalini: Destination or Scenery?
From: Druout

In a message dated 2/20/2002 8:23:27 AM Pacific Standard Time,
copithorneATnospamacninc.net writes:

> At the same time, my gut reaction is that Buddhism is based on the
experience
> of suffering, not the experience of Kundalini.

Dear Mark,

I'm not sufficiently familiar with Buddhism to really comment, but I suspect
that Buddha's actual metaphysical experiences were based on this same
Spiritual Energy. How it is interpreted by religious founders, is IMO how
different religions are born.
>
> It makes a difference whether we understand Kundalini as the destination or
> as
> just more scenery along the way. In theistic traditions, Kundalini can
> become
> the goal and the aim is to get higher and higher and higher. In Buddhism,
> whatever experience arises passes away and cultivating Kundalini is simply
> creating more karma, more bondage.

Well, my guess is that cultivating any "beliefs," takes you away from the
present joy of being.
>
> We have the miracles of sight, hearing, taste, touch, smell. Then, we have
> the miracle of Kundalini perception. [It is disorienting to go through
life for
> 25+ years and then suddenly discover a new sense organ!]

LOL!

>Do we understand
> Kundalini perception to be senior to the other senses? Or is it just one
more? Is what we see through the eye of Kundalini more true than what we
see through the eye of sight?

Well for me Kundalini has heightened other senses--all chakras being
potential pleasure centers.

>
> At this point, I understand Kundalini as just one more. Not bigger,
better,
> higher, beyond the other senses.

For me, it simply allows greater awareness.

 
> Because even if you say that Kundalini is the source of religion,
Kundalini
> is
> still not enough. Charles Manson, David Koresh and many other destructive
> people have powerful Shakti. But they get lost in worshipping their
> experience
> of Shakti as God. All religion may find its source in Kundalini
experiences,
> but a lot of religion is evil garbage. So what else is there?
> I think my own tendencies to set up Kundalini as special, above, beyond
tend
> to cause suffering.

Well, K is certainly a fascinating phenomena! I don't see K awakened people
as being special. I was "told" early in my experience that everyone is
already awake, they simply aren't aware of it.

Love, Hillary

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