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Recieved: 2002/02/12  09:48  
Subject: [K-list] Re: Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle 
From: Stephen Kowalchuk
  
On 2002/02/12  09:48, Stephen Kowalchuk posted thus to the K-list: The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle is very adeptly explained in the following 
article:
 
  http://www.aip.org/history/heisenberg/p08.htm
 
There are two pieces of interest to our discussion here:  the first, that any 
observation and interpretation of a natural phenomena, no matter how precisely 
executed, is always imperfect; and second, that no concepts in nature can be 
considered real until they *are* observed and interpreted.
 
Heh...roll *that* up and smoke it.
 
In English, my interpretation of Heisenberg's ideas is that any interpretation 
of a phenomena is biased by the methods used to observe that phenomena.  Thus, 
the act of observing something may not causally change the object under 
investigation (but it might!), but the act of observing *does* reflect the 
biases of the observer, the tools, the context, etc.  And, of course, any 
observation is by definition an approximation, thus imperfect.
 
There are many other interpretations, including those which believe in a single 
objective reality, a dualistic reality, a massive-but-finite number of 
realities, etc.
 
I personally think of reality as an interactive proposition.  We exert an 
influence on reality with our will.  We create abstractions of reality with our 
senses and our minds.  We act on our abstractions, and the universe responds.  
We tap into sources of higher and lower consciousness, trying to see the same 
stuff with better eyes.  We exist, and that carries an inertia all itself.
 
Add the "massive-but-finite parallel universes" idea of quantum reality, and the 
dream theory becomes a much more interesting concept.
 
Are we the dream or the dreamer?  Hmmm....
 
We are certainly the dreamer.  But who is dreaming us?  Perhaps we are part of a 
fabric of nested dreams in some multidimensional fractal thought-image....
 
TILT.  My brain just blew a fuse.  I need to go find my flashlight.
 
Steve
  
>    Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 05:39:27 -0000 
>    From: "lionessbleu1" <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com> 
> Subject: Re: There is no God, only Universal consciousness? 
>  
> What is that principle called...
 
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