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Recieved: 2002/01/22  14:47  
Subject: [K-list] Re: suicide stuff 
From: marraskuu1978
  
On 2002/01/22  14:47, marraskuu1978 posted thus to the K-list: Thank you to all who replied to my troubled message!
 
I particularly admired the responses by lionessbleu and godchild.
 
So perhaps belief in God and spirituality is a solution!
 
In a way, I am so envious that your commitment to your religion  
brings you so much hope and joy. Despite all the horrible things in  
life, you seem to be happy and not depressed. I wish I was internally  
capable of believing in God in the way you do.
 
You have helped me understand that my soul is indeed completely  
starved. I have completely neglected my spiritual side. Yet that is  
difficult for me, because I am an intelligent and questioning person.
 
Unfortunately, I fear that religion may not be the way for me. I  
believe in philosophy and in spirituality. The closest thing I have  
ever found to the "One Truth" in life is the "Dao" of Lao Zi's  
scriptures. Pure genius.
 
However, the concept of believing in some sort of saviour Lord is  
difficult, if not impossible, for me. I am not an atheist, but I  
don't believe any specific real God actually exists. Every culture in  
history has made up its own mythology to believe in, and I think that  
is very beautiful. And this very fact prevents me from being able to  
accept any single one as the "real way". I don't like the idea of  
limiting my thought. I want to embrace universality and all knowledge.
 
Is there a way of being spiritual in the most universal form, without  
adhering to any one specific rule-set imposed by one religion? Many  
religions have a whole baggage of "evil" associated with them, such  
as sexism or anti-gay beliefs.
 
I am wondering how a person like me can feed or harvest his neglected  
spiritual side?
 
I wish I could be as happy as you and believe in God. But deep down  
inside, I just believe in the reality of random. I agree with you  
that you can "assign" meaning to the randomness and meaninglessness  
of life. I am very much interested in Dadaism, which achieves this  
very thing. Divination (such as tarot) does also the same thing. It  
assigns meaning and symbols to a completely random thing: a deck of  
cards.
 
But because everything is truly meaningless and arbitrary, I cannot  
take anything too seriously. Things only mean what you make them  
mean. Does that mean life is just a big convention? When I think  
intelligently and independently, I constantly reject conventions in  
order to see things from the other perspective. The times I feel  
happiest in life are when I travel, learn a new language, a new  
culture, learn about another way of seeing life. No single way is  
right. But each way sheds insight on the other various ways including  
the one you may have been born with.
 
How can I believe in or trust any God, when I know he or she is just  
a symbol we have made up ourselves?
 
Maybe I have to believe in myself, in my own power or "sacredness" to  
give meaning to life.
 
Spiritually lost...
 
Marraskuu (Christian)
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