To: K-list 
Recieved: 2002/01/21  16:10  
Subject: Re: [K-list] to "help" or not to "help" 
From: Michael
  
On 2002/01/21  16:10, Michael posted thus to the K-list: In the not too distant past I thought that I had to "help" everyone, (whether they wanted it or not :-) ). The LAST person I would have ever considered helping was myself! I am now paying the price in the form of physical illness, and a shattered "life style". I have come to view this "set back" as an opportunity to finally focus on myself, and "un-learn" my care-taker role. Love is not judgmental and the truth is not pain... however the person receiving the love and truth may experience it as pain and judgment because of their "learned" filters. Ahhh! To finally become truly naked!!! 
In love and truth, 
Michael 
  ----- Original Message -----  
  From: mediaone  
  To: K-list   
  Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 8:32 PM 
  Subject: [K-list] to "help" or not to "help"
   Dear List,
 
  I find the dialogue that is going on between Keith and Susan very 
  interesting.  In part, it makes me aware of how much I have come to trust 
  Mystress Angelique's judgement and to feel the love and wisdom of her and 
  others (such as Susan) who have been on the board for so much longer than I 
  have.  If I had just come upon the board and witnessed the exchange between 
  Mystress and Tony I imagine I might have had questions about it (although 
  from where I stand now I thought what Mystress did was incredibly loving and 
  compassionate).
 
  It also makes me think about the whole issue and nature of "helping" and 
  reminds me of something I read in one of Mystress Angelique's other sites 
  about how even the act of offering love and healing to others can be 
  disrespectful because it presumes that the other is "less than" and "in 
  need" instead of seeing them as already whole and perfect and not needing to 
  change them.
 
  I'm not trying to slam you for wanting to help, Keith, because I also think 
  that there can be something useful about a fresh perspective, and not being 
  biased by a history of negative experiences with a person.  I know Goddess 
  moves in you--as she does in all things-- and maybe you are her way of 
  reaching out to Tony.
 
  Anyway, I just wanted to put in my two cents.  This whole thing is very 
  evocative for me.  I can see parts of myself in each player (including 
  Tony!).
 
  Love,
 
  Elizabeth
  
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