To: K-list
Recieved: 2002/01/07 20:50
Subject: Re: [K-list] Celibacy and K
From: Magdalene Meretrix
On 2002/01/07 20:50, Magdalene Meretrix posted thus to the K-list:
At 10:30 AM 1/8/02 +0700, Arif Sani wrote:
>This is the very subject that's been in my mind since starting to search
>some justification of my sexual activities :)
>I really appreciate your honest sharing of your experience, Magdalene.
>So what you're saying is stay normal and jut-do-it until all passion dried
>up?
I don't think I can speak for anyone's path but my own, but on my own path,
I follow what seems to be happening at the moment while also following the
wisdom of my heart. So if I were overflowing with sexual desire yet had no
willing partner, I'd explore my sexuality alone and if I were (as at
present) void of sexual desire, I'd take a rest from sex. For myself, it's
about doing what feels right in all aspects of "rightness."
>I always have difficulties to restrain that particular desire - sex.
This is just me, but I don't see a great need to restrain sexual desire
with the exception of "inflicting" one's self on others. I believe that
it's important to maintain consensuality and strive not to become
overbearing to others with one's own sexual desires, but beyond respecting
the boundaries of those around me, I don't see any reason to restrain my
sexual desire.
>Yet,
>most of the eastern literature on spiritual path around me suggest celibacy
>as the definite road to take (except the kama sutra & tantra yoga).
Don't forget that the Kama Sutra was not compiled with the intention of
constructing a spiritual manual. Not all Sutras are spiritual texts. And as
for Tantra yoga, there are many different forms of Tantra and some of them
embrace celibacy -- Tantra is not specifically a "sexual path" though many
forms of Tantra (most noticeably, Kaula Tantra) involve sexual practices.
> Yet
>people around me considers it a taboo to talk about spiritual & sexual
>experiences in conjunction (I live in south east asia, where hypocritical
>thoughts still dominates large)
It can be difficult and lonely to experience things that those around you
reject. I definitely feel for you in that situation!
>Can anybody tell me what's wrong with sex if you're looking toward
>enlightement? and what does it has to do with 'wasting energy'?
It would have to be somebody other than me because I don't understand
what's wrong with it, either.
Blessings on your journeys.
Agape,
M
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