To: K-list
Recieved: 2002/01/07 14:09
Subject: [K-list] Re: Some thoughts
From: jw
On 2002/01/07 14:09, jw posted thus to the K-list:
Thank you dear... It struck me that everything I said was what I needed
to hear, inspired or triggered by your words. With any luck some of
them may have triggered something in you as well. Everyone is a
teacher, if you allow them...
sasse wrote:
> To: sasse <metavibATnospamyahoo.com>
> Cc: <K-list ><jwATnospamwaena.edu
> Hi j :) and List,
>
> Thank you so much for your answer. My experience led
> to some insights that have kept my mind in turmoil.
> The energy process got a bit wild, too. Perhaps the
> list members sent an additional shot... Anyway my
> thanks take their time...
>
> >---I have recurring dreams that
> > show me over and over again that we live in a
> prison, that everything we do
> > is futile, that we are exiled from paradise because
> we have nothing of value
> > to contribute.
>
> The idea of prison brought the following into my mind.
> For years I used to draw window bars without noticing
> why. There were birds flying and the sun shining
> outside. Then I attended a course (I do not remember
> the name now, some kind of brain gym). While doing the
> exercises I "saw" the cage I was put into as a child.
> A cage with wooden bars and high enough to prevent
> the child from "examining" too much. :( I also
> remembered another course where we were supposed to
> help someone who suffered from the prisoner feeling.
> I wrote a fairy tale. A prison means different things
> to different people but many of us use it. I would
> like to make an animation story of that, too... (By
> the way, good ideas are becoming a problem... this
> life time is not enough to carry tham out...)
>
> >---Taking responsibility for your being means you
> alone have the
> > ability and power to create whatever kind of inner
> world you want. It means
> > not becoming a 'victim' of outside forces.
>
> I do agree with you. But I may have understood some
> part of this responsibility in a wrong way. To me it
> has meant no complaining, no sharing of pains - or
> fears. When K got active I started withdrawing from
> many of my social contacts. The start of the process
> was not frightening, just interesting - so, there was
> no must to share it. I have the habit of developing
> shells... Without notice the shell got thicker...
> Until it got broken with the New Year Cry. Taking
> responsibility does not mean that there would be no
> hurts or dark nights. That we are to deny being human
> beings. And spirituality to my mind is not explaining
> pains away by mental acropathy and concepts of ego,
> God or ... (Sorry, this is not to offend you or
> anyone else.) I have got used to see physical pain as
> a friend and the New Year made me see emotional pain
> as a friend, too. It has something important to
> tell... I may have more time to all my friends this
> year...
>
> >--- I very much relate to your
> > situation, as I have been there, and occasionally go
> there, myself. In the 2
> > years, about 2 years after my K was let loose, my
> life crumbled in every way
> > you can imagine (except for my health)... ---
>
> It is interesting that even though our processes have
> been different, the experiences/ lessons have common
> features. What is the name of the school? At least
> there are lessons like "give up your work", "give up
> your home", "do not own your family"...
>
> >---Can you say to yourself with complete honesty "I
> am going to
> > continue, no matter what", or are you going to say
> "Why, oh why, am I here in
> > this place?".---
>
> Definetely yes. I am sorry my message was so
> dramatic. While reading the re:s I had to go back and
> read my own message to understand some answers. One
> more lesson: mails and telepathy are different
> things. :)
>
> >---The decision is yours and only yours.---
>
> I certainly do my decisions... But I should learn to
> talk more, explain more if I want others to get my
> point... On the other hand I have a lot of trust in
> silence. Perhaps it is wisdom to know the way in each
> situation... Words without shell... Silence without
> shell... One day... :)
>
> There is a song... flowers are opening in my heart...
> Flowers to you,
> Sasse
>
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