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Recieved: 2001/12/17 13:11
Subject: Re: [K-list] What to do when you cannot ignore it?
From: Druout
On 2001/12/17 13:11, Druout posted thus to the K-list:
In a message dated 12/17/2001 10:02:42 AM Pacific Standard Time,
maura.butlerATnospamnhtsa.dot.gov writes:
> The vast majority of these experiences were dreadful and filled with terror
-
> like repeatedly being raped by astral entities. (If you are not sure how a
> physical person can be raped by an astral entity, just take my word for it
for
> now.) I eventually wound up afraid to go to sleep, or getting drunk before
I
> went to bed, so that I would unconscious through it. Sometimes I apparently
did
> not drink enough, because I would wake up to it anyway.
Dear Maura,
These experiences are fairly common among K active people--so common , in
fact, that we did a poll back in Sept 1999 :) See below for short synopsis.
The energies in the sexual centers can be pretty extraordinarily powerful!
> So now I am stuck trying to understand if the astral is really just a
> manifestation of my mind, or if it has a reality of its own or not, and in
either
> case - how to deal with it if it pops up again. I am also afraid to resume
my
> spiritual practices (meditation), which seem to have set the whole thing
off. I
> am also hesitant to go back to the school of spirituality I was attending,
> since it has been little or no help so far in preventing or understanding
or
> dealing with these things. They pretty much take the "ignore it; don't talk
about
> it" approach. Does anyone have any relevant experience, insight, etc?
I've been lucky in that my experiences seem to lack a concrete quality so
I've managed to see my similar experiences as metaphor--being the only way
one's psyche can attempt to explain totally astounding, out of this world
*sensation.* Being raped or made love to by gods or entities is about the
only metaphor that can cut it! On the other hand...the cosmos is a pretty
vast place! I simply prefer to find more "rational" explanations! LOL
There's an interesting article that touches on these experiences in the NY
Times on Sleep Paralysis and the Incubus/succubus phenomena (quoted in the
archives at the end of message 9328)
Hope this helps a bit. As always, the best "solution" is to surrender to the
energies. Pretty frequently "demonic" entities turn to gods and goddesses
once one accepts/realizes that all is Love.
Love, Hillary
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Poll Question: How many of us have felt spirits/gods either rape or make love
to us.
How would you characterize the experience? i.e.
positive, blissful, joyful
negative, frightening, horrifying
comical, other.ATnospam
Nine people responded to this poll-
Five people characterized the experience as positive, consentual love making.
Two people said that they experienced all the emotions listed--both positive
and negative--at different times.
One mentioned the experience without catagorizing it as positive or negative.
One person who had had an enjoyable experience warned about being sidetracked
on the quest for [spiritual] liberation.
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