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Recieved: 2001/12/10 16:11
Subject: Re: [K-list] EMDR explained
From: murrkis


On 2001/12/10 16:11, murrkis posted thus to the K-list:

--- In Kundalini-GatewayATnospamy..., "emilybATnospams..." <emilybATnospams...> wrote:
> I'll try my best to answer it! :)

Ok. And for that, a few more questions! :)

> She had asked me to think of 3 qualities that I had which I had
used in the past to get through difficult times.
>
> I came up with inquisitiveness because all my life I've enjoyed
doing research on any subject and this research had helped me to
understand many behaviors that I had or had helped me to overcome
problems I had.
>
> For example, I had always felt weird that I had been so sexually
active as a young child. I discovered through research that children
who have been molested show an early and strong interest in sex.
Knowing this, I was able to understand and forgive my behavior and
didn't feel I was a freak anymore.

Interesting, so one behavior, seen as 'not normal' is researched,
reported upon, and then resolved based on the research. There is a
possibility of forgiving behavior because the 'reason' is understood.

This sounds like a lot of stuff to take on, a lot of effort. Not that
I am free of doing this myself. <g>

I'm just curious about how 'inquisitive' became a positive in your
life. Yes, it no doubt has supported your 'dealings with' difficult
situations, but why have you relied on it, returned to it, and not
some other quality... say... resilience... or a sense of humor... or
denial... or just not thinking the situation was difficult?

> Thus my inquisitiveness had helped me overcome some of my problems.
So I had a vision of myself sitting at my computer, doing research
and felt a positive feeling somewhere in my chest area. This I
reinforced by the tapping.

Huh!

> So yes, I had determined that this was one of my strengths which
had helped me in the past to overcome difficulties. But I didn't
wedge it into any scenario of trauma or negative thought. It was an
exercise to instill a sense of strength in myself. It was not an
exercise to remove a trauma or negative thought. I wasn't removing a
knot as you called it. I was not installing a filter either.

Hmm... not installing a filter, either. You were enhancing a
particular view of yourself. Altering the state of your perception of
your self. Reinforcing one thing instead of another. Creating another
identity, or a layer to an identity, adding to the palimpsest. An
additive, rather than subtractive or refigurative, process.

Or is it refigurative in the sense that something existing is brought
forward? In which case you are moving the pieces around... but what
are those pieces, and why move them around?

>The pain from past traumas and negative thoughts are reprocessed by
thinking about the negative thought or reliving the trauma.

Huh! Ok. More pieces moving around. Someday, I'll have everything
arranged just right and I'll be happy. :)

> I see it more as an exercise to realize that we do all have
strengths and inner resources which we are perhaps not always
conscious of having.

Ok.

> What I found most interesting about this technique is that she told
me to imagine a white light, a string of energy around the areas on
my body where I had felt all three strengths. This didn't sound like
traditional therapy to me. This was more like a meditation exercise.
Maybe psychology and spirituality are coming closer. :)

Yep, I've had many doctors tell me what to 'imagine'... whole scripts
of visualizations. What I found was that when I ws imagining what
they told me to imagine, I was simply imagining what they told me to
imagine. The things I wanted to imagine, the things that came
naturally (and the things that were much more interesting for me on a
personal level) were put on hold, pushed off, or not given credit. In
one specific instance, I had to mold what I was 'seeing' into
something that the doctor could 'appreciate'... blech.

What is going on when one is imagining white light? Same thing as
what is going on when someone is 'focusing on the positive'. Where is
the dark? Where is the 'negative'? Left behind, ignored. Not
accepted. The cycle goes on. No wonder there are whole groves of
trees to chop down!

> She didn't tell me that these strengths would help me get past a
trauma. It was not intended that way. It was done to realize that
when I faced future problems in my life, that I had inner resources
to deal with them. These strengths/qualities were not intended to
remove a past trauma.

Ok.

> Then that is up to you if you find that these behaviors are the
ones that you want to use to face the challenges in your life. We
each make our own choices. What we sometimes forget is that we do
have choices.

Hmm.. what are these choices based on? Who builds the foundation upon
which these choices are based?

Palimpsest from the beginning of time.

inquisitively ;),
Nina


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