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Recieved: 2001/12/08 06:48
Subject: [K-list] re: Dan Tal, and everyone My theories/ The smell of one bird crapping
From: Nick Sandberg


On 2001/12/08 06:48, Nick Sandberg posted thus to the K-list:

Message: 1
   Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 05:50:14 -0000
   From: "gyrefalcon_argenteus" <gyrefalcon_argenteusATnospamyahoo.com>
Subject: Dan Tal, and everyone My theories

First off Dan, what Siska said I agree with every word, I
couldn't add much to her response too you. Except this, you asked if
your will drove K. This is my theory,

In Yogic philosophy it talks about cutting back on meals, no anger
and no sex and developing compassion and one pointedness of mind.

Anger tends to drive energy down, sex brings it down to the second
chakra and food to the third. Compassion brings energy to the heart
chakra and a focused or empty mind brings it up higher.

Working with anger directly, and there are now active meditations where you
can do
this [humaniversity aum meditation for one], a person can discover that the
energy they've been scared of
expressing their whole life can actually transform them faster than
anything! It's a totally amazing thing - anger - fast track to
enlightenment!

The problem with avoidance is that it's a lot easier to give up something
you've
experienced than it is something you're still dreaming about. Nick
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Message: 14
   Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 09:26:05 +1100
   From: Christopher Wynter <lifestreamsATnospambigpond.com>
Subject: The smell of one bird crapping

Perhaps the greatest guide to an understanding of what like is
like living in the fully awakened state can be found by reading the
Tao.

....................

The History of climate change on the planet can be gleaned by
taking an ice core from the Arctic or Antarctic and examining that
core scientifically.

I don't need to do that. The history of civilisation is contained
within the genetic code of the DNA. Wisdom is what it takes to
allow the pictures to come without preconceptions - to allow one
picture to give way to the next as the kallaidescope unfolds to
present a bigger picture - rather than to freeze frame and try to
understand one picture in isolation.

This is the Book of the Human Body - my body.Yeah, it's amazing! 'And i saw in the right hand of him that sat on the
throne a book written frontside and back and sealed with 7 seals.' St John
was writing about the body and what happens when one is 'worthy enough to
open it' [revelation 5].

re: other interesting stuff above - a tantric perspective of the world can
see it in terms of two axis - the horizontal is 'time' - a way of creating a
framework for experience and referring back to it; and the vertical is
'now' - an infinite experience where everything always present. Usually,
people live on the horizontal cause they're afraid of the vertical. scares
the shit out of me. on the vertical there is no past or future, what you are
is what you are. Nick


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