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Recieved: 2001/12/08  06:48  
Subject: [K-list] re: Dan Tal, and everyone My theories/ The smell of one bird crapping 
From: Nick Sandberg
  
On 2001/12/08  06:48, Nick Sandberg posted thus to the K-list: Message: 1 
   Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 05:50:14 -0000 
   From: "gyrefalcon_argenteus" <gyrefalcon_argenteusATnospamyahoo.com> 
Subject: Dan Tal, and everyone My theories
 
First off Dan, what Siska  said I agree with every word, I 
couldn't add much to her response too you.  Except this, you asked if 
your will drove K.  This is my theory,
 
In Yogic philosophy it talks about cutting back on meals, no anger 
and no sex and developing compassion and one pointedness of mind.
 
Anger tends to drive energy down, sex brings it down to the second 
chakra and food to the third.  Compassion brings energy to the heart 
chakra and a focused or empty mind brings it up higher. 
 
Working with anger directly, and there are now active meditations where you 
can do 
this [humaniversity aum meditation for one], a person can discover that the 
energy they've been scared of 
expressing their whole life can actually transform them faster than 
anything! It's a totally amazing thing - anger - fast track to 
enlightenment!
 
The problem with avoidance is that it's a lot easier to give up something 
you've 
experienced than it is something you're still dreaming about. Nick 
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Message: 14 
   Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 09:26:05 +1100 
   From: Christopher Wynter <lifestreamsATnospambigpond.com> 
Subject: The smell of one bird crapping
 
Perhaps the greatest guide to an understanding of what like is 
like living in the fully awakened state can be found by reading the 
Tao.
 
....................
 
The History of climate change on the planet can be gleaned by 
taking an ice core from the Arctic or Antarctic and examining that 
core scientifically.
 
I don't need to do that. The history of civilisation is contained 
within the genetic code of the DNA. Wisdom is what it takes to 
allow the pictures to come without preconceptions - to allow one 
picture to give way to the next as the kallaidescope unfolds to 
present a bigger picture - rather than to freeze frame and try to 
understand one picture in isolation.
 
This is the Book of the Human Body - my body.Yeah, it's amazing! 'And i saw in the right hand of him that sat on the 
throne a book written frontside and back and sealed with 7 seals.' St John 
was writing about the body and what happens when one is 'worthy enough to 
open it' [revelation 5].
 
re: other interesting stuff above - a tantric perspective of the world can 
see it in terms of two axis - the horizontal is 'time' - a way of creating a 
framework for experience and referring back to it; and the vertical is 
'now' - an infinite experience where everything always present. Usually, 
people live on the horizontal cause they're afraid of the vertical. scares 
the shit out of me. on the vertical there is no past or future, what you are 
is what you are. Nick 
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