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Recieved: 2001/11/22 07:46
Subject: Re: [K-list] Love
From: Nancy Brook


On 2001/11/22 07:46, Nancy Brook posted thus to the K-list:

Hello John and list,

Well, I'll admit it. I was a luuuvvvv junkie! (Maybe am still, but have
tempered with awareness)

A couple of comments on your points.

From: jmu123usATnospamyahoo.com
> In any relationship, especially one of purported "love," it is wise
> to ask your "Higher Self" to reveal to you the true nature of the
> person you "love. Especially since we can be blinded by the
> intense figure eight flow of energy betwixt each other,
> more intense especialy when libido is involved.

I have a friend who is psychic, though few know this, and she uses these
skills to read people. She looks at people by seeing their human flaws. Now,
I am the exact opposite. I look at people by seeing their spiritual truth.
Which perspective is right? Both, of course. I just want to say that it is
wise to look at the person for who they are as a human, but love's eyes does
not depend on the human vessel. Love sees that spirit within and recognizes
that it's one with it. Love is not dependent on the humanly traits. It just
happens, springs forth sometimes unexpectedly!

I have a man whom I love. I've known him for years. Now in real life, he has
become annoying to me. I would really like to NOT love him, but that's not
how it works. I love him, accept him for who he is. We are friends, and
sometimes I need to point out what I see. Other times, I just need to let it
go and realize that my role in life is to work on myself, not everyone else.

I think the libido effect doesn't indicate love of the spiritual sense, but
love in the physical sense. That's the "in love" stuff, pure infatuation.
That's what most of us get caught up in during the beginning of
relationships. It's the game of putting someone on a pedestal and
worshipping the other as the object of our affection. He/she becomes god for
the one in love.

Now THAT'S where I think the suffering comes in. When the love object falls
from that pedestal, which they inevitably have to do, the lover wonders how
could they have missed all the signs?

Counter that with spiritual love. The eyes of the spiritual lover sees the
one he/she loves clearly. There is no fall from a pedestal, because they
were never elevated to god status. And the flaws are just parts to accept,
and maybe an opportunity for the lover to reflect on what noticing these
flaws says about the observer. You can't see it if you don't own it. When
the love stumbles, there is a hand naturally extended to help break the
fall. There is no recrimination: How could he DO that???

> Bear in mind that when there is a conflict between what our
> desires want, and what our mind tells us, in most people
> their desires win out through a process of rationalization.

I have come to the conclusion that I can't trust my mind. My mind is tricky,
always trying to get me to scheme, rationalize, plot and plan when it comes
to romance. My mind is LEAD by my desires. My heart never lies. It tells me
how I'm feeling and can easily detect the truth of any situation. Sometimes
I forget to listen to my heart, or my mind is too busy chatting to listen,
but when I do, I am never steered wrong.


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