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Recieved: 2001/11/06 15:38
Subject: [K-list] Re: Transition
From: aster MP


On 2001/11/06 15:38, aster MP posted thus to the K-list:

Hi everyone...
   
Aaron wrote:
From: AaronASATnospambigfoot.com
Subject: Transition - White to Red

> I found because of my clearing and lessons I was
> learning I was attracting the wrong type of person.
> They came into my life to teach me the lessons I
> needed and then left. Sometimes it was distressing
as
> I didn't realise they were here for only lessons,
not
> relationships.

How does it help anyone to view people as "lessons"
They are people!
The
experiences we have with them, are experiences, we can
call them
"lessons"

*snip*
How can we be fully in this lifetime
if we
view it like that?
*snip*

aster:
As usual with mailing lists it was my choice of words
that you've chosen to interpret differently that what
my intention was when writing them. These 'lessons'
are people who I value and love, even though some of
them aren't in my life anymore.
If it wasn't for them I wouldn't be the person I am
today. They have a special place in my heart and
memories.
_____
Aaron:
*snip*
I don't want to jump the gun and say what's bugging
you, but obviously there is something in
the way of a free flowing natural experience
*snip*
________
aster:
Obviously....thats why I'm questioning and wrote to
the list.
________

From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
<MystressATnospamkundalini-gateway.org>
Subject: Re: Transition - White to Red

*snip*
Well, your situation is not unusual.. and it is kind
of typical of some K. results. Becoming "free from
desire" as the Buddha says, sometimes means that it is
hard to get back desire, when it is wanted.
*snip*
____________
aster:
I realised that the desires I had came from my
troubled childhood and other events in my past...my
desperation for love from others instead of finding it
within. I formed addictive co-dependency
relationships which were filled with insecurity and
jealousy. Now my personal growth in that area has
released me from them, I'm
finding a new me that feels differently. I'm still
learning who that person is.
_________
Mystress Angelique:
*snip*
    The other thing to consider, tho, is that much of
personal growth happens outside of the body. We travel
in our thoughts, to the past and the future, and
observe ourselves from the witness state. You cannot
feel the desires of the body, if you are not in it.
*snip*
__________
aster:
Yes, I've noticed this...that part of me that observes
me, does the analysis, logically works out whats
happening and then offers suggestions for a solution.
This is 'me', not my guidence or higher self, they are
felt differently.

I need to learn more about it as I think its become
too seperate now. Recently I was extremly happy and
couldn't understand why. The other night I was crying
and didn't know what I was crying about. The 'feeling
human' part is to far away and I'm not in touch with
my emotions properly.
__________
Mystress Angelique:
*snip*
Stress of almost any kind knocks me out of body,
too... and I found that plenty of relaxation, away
from work brought my interest back.
__________
aster:
Work is on my mind a lot, I have to consciously stop
myself from thinking about it. Its very stressful and
busy at the moment.
___________
   Mystress Angelique:
To consciously throw the switch, focus on really being
in your body. Going deeper into the physical with the
ritual attention of hot baths, giving yourself a warm
oil massage, incense, the feel of soft fabrics
and a warm fire. I say giving yourself a massage,
because it is to be a romance between you and your own
body... totally self indulgent ritual of gratitude
for having a body that can feel, and reclaiming it
back. When you are able to stay focused and sustain
pleasure on your own, you will have carved a new
channel, and be better able to relax with a partner...
_________
aster:
Thanks Mistress, enlightening.....this is what I'm
going to do. 'Carving a new channel'
is needed for the new sexual woman in me to arise and
be 'real' :)
_________
Mystress Angelique:
preferably a man with a slow hand, as the song goes..
who will be willing to take plenty of time to stir
your senses into sensual flame.
_________
aster:
You've reminded me of guidence I received when I met
him, that this is the man that will awaken the woman
within. I know its up to me too, not to look outside
of
myself, but contact with other energies and
masculinity realy helps..*grin* and thats a great
song....'a lover with a slow hand.....' *s*
__________
   From: Antoine Carré <carreaATnospamvideotron.ca>
Subject: Re: Transition - White to Red to a rainbow

*snip*

Enjoy, and listen deeply.

Antoine
________
aster:
That short sentance touched a cord deep within, I know
thats where my answers
are...thanks Antoine.

warm hugs to all

aster


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