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Recieved: 2001/10/31  17:16  
Subject: RE: [K-list] Kundalini descending... 
From: rich
  
On 2001/10/31  17:16, rich posted thus to the K-list: Phew... Hi Sean... You really sound like your in the middle of a tornado 
at the moment. Well you know what they say about the calm after the 
storm. Hope that will come to you soon. 
 
It's very last now (for me) and I will try and respond as best as I can 
...
 
Stick therapy hat on.... I would normally work to assess what the main 
factors are that are creating this situation.
 
Some things can snarl you up and others can free you up. Where are you 
placing your attention? Are you stuck with troublesome thoughts or do 
you find comfort and enjoyment in aspects of your life.
 Look at some of your main life areas:
 
Question that come to me are:
 
- How is you work (assuming you do work?). Are you thinking constantly 
all day? Are you having breaks to give your mind time to rest throughout 
the day? 
- Are you socialising (both at work and with friends). Do you enjoy the 
company of others? 
- What grounding activities are you doing? (I.e. hard physical exercise 
such as weight training, walks in nature, swimming in the sea, camping 
for the weekend etc...) 
- Is there love in your life? Do you have love towards yourself? What do 
you have a passion for and are you pursuing that? Without love it's very 
easy to get stuck in your head with lots of thoughts.... Love is 
important for a happy mind.
 
You mentioned about where you put your attention - you could try this 
when you go to bed. Put your attention behind your heart chakra - i.e. 
from your back facing forward rather than at your front. Move up and 
down a bit with your attention, but stay central (i.e. along your spine) 
- there is spacial place where you can rest yourself and almost lose 
yourself in a wonderful feeling of love. With practise you can expand 
this across your whole body and into your mind. The mind can rest this 
way. 
 
This is based on the idea that energy flows where attention goes.
 
Being caught up and attached to our thoughts is very easy to do - are 
world teaches us very much so that we should live in our heads. However 
with practise it is possible to spend more time in other parts such as 
the heart.
 
You are absolutely right about meditation when feeling very sad or 
unhappy. This is commonly stressed in yoga. Talking of which the asanas 
may be of benefit for calming down the mind somewhat as well as helping 
with freeing up blockages of energy. It can leave you feeling quite 
relaxed and free.
 
The control vs survival comments you make are interesting. The fact is 
we are all controlling to a degree, unless we are free of ego. Everyone 
has degrees of rightfulness when it comes to acting in a way that may 
upset or harm others. It's a tricky one to gauge. My only suggestion is 
to try and act as best as you can at the time. So that you don't have 
anything to regret. Sure you might not always get it right but just be 
happy anyway that you at least tried to do well. Hope that makes sense.
 
My experience is that there are always plenty of people who will take 
advantage of me and being aware I tend to find myself more effected by 
others energies. I am getting better at dealing with this and protecting 
myself but I do know I'm better than I was. I'll share more things when 
I finally get my website up. Keep an eye around here - I'm bound to 
mention it once it's in place. I believe in protecting myself I am doing 
far less harm than what the other might be trying to do to me on an 
energetic level whether it be conscious or unconscious to them. I guess 
at some level I am also creating this experience for me also but I 
haven't sussed the cause on this one yet.
 Okay, I wish you well in your journey. Please feel free to write if you 
feel I can help further. I'd be interested to know what sort of clearing 
work you have done in the past...
 
Best wishes, Rich
 >  -----Original Message----- 
>  From: unit1021ATnospamhotmail.com [mailto:unit1021ATnospamhotmail.com]  
>  Sent: 30 October 2001 18:01 
>  To: K-list  
>  Subject: Re: [K-list] Kundalini descending... 
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   Hello Rich, 
>   
>   
>   Thanks for the reply, Just wanted to add some things, maybe  
>  make things a little clearer... 
>   
>   
>   
>  >Meditation should help to calm the 
>  > mind and allow you to act without thought. It may be that  
>  issues are   
>  >resurfacing that need handling - things that you need to let go and 
>  move 
>  > on from? 
>   
>   
>   This is what I need. Problem is I really can't. If I do  
>  start calming down and meditating I get all sorts of  
>  distorted thoughts and images. And I start to hear my body  
>  crying again for some help. Its bad... I once read that you  
>  were not supposed to meditate if you were not feeling like  
>  yourself, or you were in a bad state either mentaly or  
>  physicaly. I'm in a very bad state in both. 
>   
>   
>   
>   
>  > 
>  > A friend suggested imagining that you are a flower and are able to 
>  close 
>  > the pettles up to isolate and protect yourself from the negative  
>  > energies around. 
>  > 
>   
>   
>   I thought that was some type of control. Something your not  
>  supposed to do... Can you do this? Someone also said I can  
>  bring these things inside of me so I dont pick up on  
>  everything.. Is this stuff control or survival? I dont want  
>  to mess with anything, but I dont want to feel so bad all  
>  day either.. 
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>  Some solid clearing work should 
>  > help to bring this back. You may want to read about the  
>  Brahma knot. 
>  > 
>   
>   
>   This was why I wrote. I was doing clearing work and  
>  something snapped in my head. I was feeling so good too.. I  
>  know why it happened now. To much stress. But I thought it  
>  was all OK, I mean it was all for Goddess... What I didnt  
>  know was that my top chakra was closed off and all that  
>  energy was slamming into the top of my head and not flowing  
>  out like it should. I mean there is all this Autumn energy  
>  going on, I was thanking my unconcious all the time, I was  
>  changing my beliefs all over the place. I was learning  
>  everything new. I havent gotten any real sleep in over a  
>  year, my body is crying all the time and needs to be healed  
>  right away, so I was doing a lot of that. My syncronicity  
>  was going BOOM BOOM BOOM! I was getting more info faster  
>  than I can absorb the last stuff I just got. All of these  
>  things where happening to me... And to top that all off  
>  people where still messing with the way I was thinking while  
>  I was doing all of this twisting my thoughts while I'm  
>  clearing....... snap..... 
>   
>   
>   
>   So now I cant do anything really anymore... Every time I  
>  try things rush to my head and I have to stop because it  
>  hurts. I dont know what to do... I'f I could only calm down  
>  and get some sleep and de-stress away from everyones  
>  disturbing thoughts..... 
>   
>   
>   So I dont know what to do. I thought I was doing the right  
>  thing by doing all of this. I wanted to learn all I can so I  
>  can stop the hurting that is destroying me as soon as  
>  possible. Clear out all the blocks so I could feel good  
>  again... But I seemed to have just made things worse.. 
>   
>   
>   So now I'm lost... I need guidence, because I evidently  
>  dont know how to do this. I just wanted to feel better for once.... 
>   
>   
>   So thats what I really wanted to know... Whats a good pace?  
>  I will do this until I destroy myself otherwise I think... 
>   
>   Maybe I know? Maybe.. Thats what I'm working on.... 
>   
>   
>   Hello? 
>   
>   Thanks 
>   
>   
>   Sean 
 
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