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Recieved: 2001/10/28  17:49  
Subject: [K-list] uh-oh, here he goes again... 
From: Michael Read
  
On 2001/10/28  17:49, Michael Read posted thus to the K-list: --- In NondualitySalonATnospamy..., crookedlaceATnospamy... wrote: 
> ---  Dear Andrew, 
> Where am i going?  i am going to be here until i am done, then i
 
will move to the next  phase of the  journey as we all will.  i will 
die so that  the body that is so needed here can be  left behind.  the 
body belongs here, is a part of the natural order and will remain, 
our  spirit, or consciousness if you prefer, will go on to the next 
stop on the journey. 
> Gracie
 
whose consciousness could that be 
unless there really isn't one universal consciousness 
but also these apparently individual conciousnesses 
and why would the universal consciousness 
decide to appear as separate individual conciousnesses 
that must move from level to level just to - oh what's 
that word again? - ah yes, reconnect to the universal 
consciousness which it (the apparent separate individual 
conciseness) was in the first place?
 
ever wonder why it appears this way? 
is it just a big joke? maybe, maybe not! 
who can tell if it is only a game or if it is real? 
you? 
me? 
somebody? 
anybody?
 
oh and did you ever wonder why the energy of the universe 
became matter in the first place? i mean sheesh! 
doesn't being perfect energy seem oh so much better 
than poor suffering physical matter? 
one would think so, perhaps.
 
i mean did you ever think about it? i mean really Really think about it? 
i don't mean think about how it all fits together and stuff like that. 
no, did you ever think about where it all came from, let alone where it 
is all going? and where did you come from before you were born either 
this lifetime or any lifetime? i mean before you even had the first 
lounge around between lifetimes to figure out what you were going to do 
next lifetime, if you're into reincarnation.
 
are you religious, spiritual, or just plain old curious? do you believe 
in God, universal being, or perhaps, primordial energy? 
ever wonder where those things came from? or, if they truly do exist?
 
do these kinds of questions keep you awake at night? do you spend hours 
praying, meditating, or working on esoteric mathematics trying to get an 
answer somehow somewhere someway?
 
are you stumped? don't you find it a whole lot easier to just accept 
some religious teachings, some spiritual experiences, or some logical 
conclusions? many do, you know.
 
so, what is your thing? how do you explain all this? have you ever felt 
like you grokked it? you know, understood in fullness.
 
is your understanding better than the next guy's. maybe he is the one 
with the correct answer. is there a correct answer? perhaps there is and 
we are just too dumb to see it. again, though, if God or Spirit, or 
Something created all this, what did it use to do that? was there some 
spare building material just lying around?
 
was God bored or happy or curious or something? was the universe created 
just because it could be?
 
do you think that there is some plan to all this? will creation, all of 
it, ever not exist some far distant day? if it does vanish or get 
destroyed somehow, what was the point in the first place?
 
isn't it easier if you do NOT think about these things?
 
HAHAHAH and HOHOHO!
 
peace - and that's all folks - michael 
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