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Recieved: 2001/10/26  15:19  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Thanks, Brief Intro and Question 
From: Will
  
On 2001/10/26  15:19, Will posted thus to the K-list: Dear Hillary,
 
Thank you very much for the information. I have been looking under 
Shiva-Shakti and other names but vajra chopper and Vajravarahi got me some 
of the information I needed.
 
Thanks again, 
Will
 
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Dear Will,
 
 The figure you are speaking of may be the Tibetan 
Paramasukha-Chakrasamavara 
and his consort Vajravarahi (female wisdom)  There are a couple of other 
possibilities too.
 
"Paramasukha translates as Supreme Bliss and Chakrasamvara as Wheel 
Integration. "
 
She is holding a vajra chopper.
 
"The Supreme Bliss Wheel Integration Tantra is considered the ultimate 
Mother 
tantra, in that its literature has the most developed technology of 
contemplative cultivation of the clear light of freedom."
 
"Here we see Shamvara in mystic union with his female aspect symbolizing the 
blissful union of compassion and wisdom that is the actuality of 
enlightenment."  p. 315
 
The quotes are from Robert Thurman (Uma Thurman's father! :))  in *Wisdom 
and 
Compassion the Sacred art of Tibet*
 
"As modern depth psychology has come to recognize, images like this 
Paramasukha-Chakrasamvara represent the deepest archetypes of the 
unconscious, integrating the powerful, instinctual energies of life into a 
consciously sublimated and exalted state."
 
Welcome to the K-list!  :))
 
Love, Hillary
 
In a message dated 10/26/2001 8:59:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, wATnospamhwi.com 
writes:
 
> There is a common statue that I seem to see everywhere but can't find 
>  information on. It is of a man and a woman in the yab yum position. The 
man 
>  is much larger than the woman in his arms yet the woman is holding a 
knife 
>  behind his back. I understand a little of the significance of this statue 
to 
>  my experience but I don't remember the names of the male form, the female 
>  form, the statue, or the knife the woman is holding. Any help would be 
>  appreciated. 
>
 
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