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Recieved: 2001/10/23 03:56
Subject: [K-list] Astronomical nationalism
From: Jb789


On 2001/10/23 03:56, Jb789 posted thus to the K-list:

A top astronomer(astrophysicist), was interviwed on TV, in connection
with today's eventual landing of a US spaceship, on Mars.

He was saying, in a quite excited tone of voice .. while accentuating
his words with hands/arms gesticulations :
".. and it is important for us Danish folk to note, The Date of the
landing .. it is a Very important date ..Exactly 400 years after the
death of Thycho Brahe (Danish astronomer) .. he has made our country
a great contributor .. he is the Only .. one of the only famous
Danish (he corrected himself) who left his mark on the world of
science...".

Once in a while, I used to look at the vastness of the skies, and
feel the insignificance of my personal I-dentity and personal
drama .. and wondered sometimes whether I should not have had
astrophysics as profession .. it felt as being so much more trans-
personal and significant, than what I do now.

But apparently, astronomy as any other discipline, is no cure for the
pettiness of human mind and its 'gods' and flags ..
It reminds me of Krishnamurti's statement about the landing on the
moon ..(I paraphrase).. "they go thru all that enormous scientific
knowledge and efforts to land on the moon, and they plant a flag on
it.."

And this astro-chap, is one of the leaders of humanity ..
He was also saying, that Thycho Brahe helped to change man's view of
the universe.. by freeing it from the religious views and instead
using direct observation.
And he was uplifitng the value of the telescope.. and
I wonder why, he never turned the 'telescope' from gazing onto the
skies, towards himself ..?!

So what is the difference between this 'highly educated'
and 'civilized' flag-bearer and the poor
uneducated 'fundamentalist' ? ..

If I would ask a ufo-naut, what he thinks of the 'future of
humanity', I would not be at all surprized if he would say :
"..Humans ?!..
... Forget it man ! "

jb


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