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Recieved: 2001/10/18  15:37  
Subject: RE: [K-list] kind of a question. 
From: rich
  
On 2001/10/18  15:37, rich posted thus to the K-list: Hi Jesse,
 
First thing I will say is hang on in there. K can bring an enormous 
amount of turbulence to ones life and make you question just about 
everything. It's almost like the world that you came to know and believe 
in as you grew up is shaken in a big way and you are then left to work 
out all the bits and how things *really* are.
 
This is not just a side-effect of K. but can come from any desire for 
genuine truth or spiritual growth. 
 
Now all I can recommend right now - and I am no expert - is that you 
seek things which will take your mind off your mind. I'm not suggesting 
it is easy BUT it is possible. Find things that will help ground you - 
whatever it is - a walk in nature, crystals, reiki, lots of physical 
exercise etc... I get the feeling you have a lot of worry or think a lot 
about things and it would be better to try and 'trust' in K or a higher 
force or something that feels right for you and let the process work for 
itself.
 
A number of people have talked about how there reaction to events and 
perception of situations changes which can certainly alienate you from 
old friends (this has been the case for me also). Stay around here for a 
while - lots of people will be able to share in what your experiencing. 
Write about it all - that helps externalise stuff and helps clarify 
things to yourself. And you are bound to find new friends as you move on 
and evolve. Don't worry about that too much! 
 Well my thoughts are with you. Let us know how you are getting on.
 
With love,
 
Rich >  -----Original Message----- 
>  From: Final Element J A Livengood [mailto:borgATnospamslacc.com] 
>  Sent: 17 October 2001 20:29 
>  To: K-list  
>  Subject: [K-list] kind of a question. 
>   
>  Ok, I will start here. had to write that to get the ball rolling... 
:) 
>   
>   4 years ago, I had dreams of Objects in the sky flying around, that 
year I was with a 
>  friend and I felt 
>  like I needed to figure out the trajectory of this object high in the 
night 
>  sky, because It didnt look like a plane, and the airport tower said 
perhaps you seen a 
>  satelite. 
>  No way this was a sat, unless it was about a half mile long and 
looked like a arrow 
>  head glowing 
>  underneath kinda whitish. so the group of people that me and my 
friend were around 
>  all bs'd 
>  about it for the night, then noone thought about it. Next morning it 
was on the news 
>  that an airport over 
>  in AZ reported strange lights on the runway and the local news 
stations made it their 
>  top story. 
>  with what we saw eariler, and after double checking this path of the 
previous night 
>  object we knew it was right 
>  and that the object was probally moving about 2000mph without making 
noise or 
>  leaving 
>  a trail in the clear cold late fall sky. 
>   So it prooved to be true, my dreams that is. 
>   
>  The following year I had dreams of tornadoes like nuts. It was 
actually pretty dumb 
>  sometimes, wake up, goto 
>  sleep and have the same dream, well, that year was extreme for bad 
storms. 
>   
>  Then I had dreams of being in a field and watching a big plane fly 
over and crash on 
>  the other side of the treeline. 
>  I remember walking up and seeing plane parts hundreds of feet apart 
from each 
>  other. I had this dream several 
>  times but, 3 years ago, nothing happened. Nothing has happened until 
recently, its 
>  been uneventful for 
>  about 3 years. Now with the recent events, I am to the point of 
seclusion, I been so 
>  edgy with everyone 
>  I have lost my friends and am pretty much all alone here. 
>   
>  shortly after,btw , of the plane dream, i had a few very detailed 
dreams of being 
>  under a burning car and everything 
>  around me burnt, and someone outta nowhere saying, cmon , move it. 
>   
>   Now, it is clear to me, I have been searching for the right people 
to talk to about it 
>  for years now. 
>  About 7 months ago some other posting site for ESP said it sounded 
more like K to 
>  them. This 
>  is what brought me here. 
>   
>   BTW, for 10 years I have been working on the beleif that I can 
control my mind 
>  more than people around me because, I feel 
>  like a living camera, like as If I should be in a 
third-person-perspective on myself 
>  instead of seeing 
>  from my eyes. It used to scare me, and depress me even, because of 
this feeling so 
>  strong that I wanted 
>  to break down. 
>   
>   Now, my mind is a little shady because of the illness of my only 
in-contact family 
>  member that is sure to 
>  take him away from me as has everything else. 
>   
>   I just really feel like I need some kind of testing, or something, I 
dont know really, 
>  just that, It isn't normal 
>  but it isn't psychosis or any post-depression aftershocks. 
>   
>   I am kinda hoping that someone can help me in more than just telling 
me to 
>  continue because I am to 
>  the point, I want to almost walk upto a stranger and say, here is 
what you are 
>  thinking, and walk away, but 
>  I dnt have the strength to do it yet because I worry that one time I 
will clog and say 
>  something totally 
>  oppisite of what he is thinking.. 
>   
>   BTW, excuse the typing errors, Just alot to type while I thought 
and, I got to go 
>  attempt to fix my 
>  transportation by the end of the day so I can not proofread it right 
now :) 
>   
>   Thank you all, 
>   Jesse 
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