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Recieved: 2001/10/13  15:56  
Subject: [K-list] Another perspective 
From: Druout
  
On 2001/10/13  15:56, Druout posted thus to the K-list: Dear Chris, Tony, List,
 
Ok, Sigh, I guess I may as well weigh in.  Feeling in an unusually feisty  
mood anyway.  
 
This 60's rhetoric all sounds exactly like me 30 years ago!  LOLOL   Wow was  
that period of useless, self destructive anger ever painful.  :0  
 
The Taliban made two vital mistakes, IMO--blowing up those protective  
Buddhist statues and taking Christian women hostages while a Born again  
Christian was in the White house. :0  
 
I think when we start looking at *motives,* either theirs and ours, we get  
sidetracked into justifying horrors committed on either side.   I think fear  
also motives the present anti American sentiment.  No one wants a world  
culture dominated by the US, but if we don't start learning to live in the  
present, and start understanding present realities, without fear and hatred,  
we will all suffer.  Most Americans are well aware of Oil conspiracy  
theories. BTW!  True or false, they are only one part of a much larger  
picture, IMO. 
 
The following rather centered me.  It's from an old K-list member.  
 
Love, 
 
Hillary
 
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Current International Situation - A Personal View. Hello All, Hope you are all keeping healthy fit and well wherever you may be, and  
particularly those of you in the USA with the recent troubles so close at  
hand and fresh in mind. The world is a charming place to find oneself in at  
times is it not. But it is a world in which there is a time and place for all  
things, and events here certainly seem to dictate that all possible  
contingencies have to unfold and be played out to a conclusion one way or the  
other. Peace is an ideal, whilst violence and aggression are an unfortunate  
extant fact of life here as yet. Personally I have been very impressed with the patience and diplomacy with  
which the USA have handled this situation, and the manner in which military  
and diplomatic action has been taken hitherto. In war (which this is not in  
the strict sense of the word) one has to act, or succumb to the inevitable  
other alternative; which is not an alternative. In war there is only one  
rule, and that is to win it. But this is the first kind of international  
hostility which I have encountered wherein there is so much consideration,  
and assistance where possible, for the civilians and non combatants of a  
hostile nation; and which presents a whole new ball game, and a difficult one. Irrespective of ones social philosophy and political ideologies I do not  
think that any sane, civilised human being could condone, or turn a blind  
eye, to the way people, particularly woman and children, are being treated in  
that land by the incumbent regime, for it is appalling and denigrates human  
beings and life itself. Yet despite this blatant fact, and which is  
substantiated by everyone with first hand experience of it, youths in other  
countries are hypnotised and brain washed into seeing it as a religious war  
on Islam; instead of an attack in self defence on a current system of cult  
terrorism which unleashed the first acts of violence. Many a time I have personally said that religions of priestcraft are the  
worst virus ever to plague the human mind; I said it forty years ago and I  
still say it today, for it messes with peoples minds, and is itself a hard  
core brain washing system, but fundamentalism, wherever it exists is the  
epitome and cutting edge of its danger. It is true enough that many people on earth do not like rampant monopoly  
capitalism, and I am one of them. But in the countries where it exist, and  
which is most of them, it does so by democratic means. People vote for it;  
and the consensus must have what they want, and only change it when they want  
and demand something different. But evidence suggest that the women and  
children of the land in question did not vote for such an appalling existence  
and domination, and those who would defend the perpetrators of it align  
themselves with that regime and ideology, and no matter what land they live  
in. Would they vote for it in their own land I wonder, and for their own  
women and children to endure? I do not think so. If a few nations decided to however, and in the name of a shared religion  
(which it is not) then so be it; and the world would reap the harvest of  
ignorance and destruction on a wide scale. It is interesting to note that  
such young thugs are not old enough to have experienced real war and its  
consequences. But such situations cannot be avoided at any cost, for to do so  
would be to sell the whole of human dignity down the drain. This hostility is  
not about religious ideologies it is about ignorance, brain washing, and the  
way human beings treat other human beings. If men cannot fight for the  
rights, the safety and dignity of their woman and children, then they are not  
men, and they are not civilised. Would the rioting youth of Pakistan and  
other such nations treat their woman and children that way? And do they have  
the right to do so? No, they do not. And trouble comes to those who go  
looking for it. The Western world did not start this one, but they could  
certainly finish it if they had to. Let us hope that contingency does not  
arise, and that sanity can prevail, and improve peoples situations as soon as  
possible. But whilst people on earth starve and freeze to death then the  
world can never know real peace, for it is a small world in which none can be  
isolated from the rest - and do not ask for whom the bell tolls; for we all  
know. Sincere regards to all subscribers. Dick.
 
rwrATnospameggconnect.net 
Love, Hillary
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