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Recieved: 2001/09/29  12:31  
Subject: [K-list] Re: Re kundalinin experiences 
From: L. J. Klinsky
  
On 2001/09/29  12:31, L. J. Klinsky posted thus to the K-list: Hello, kind Grant. Today is the first day that I haven't done any yoga/meditation/pranyama since March when I started. (I feel naked without it!) Last night (and into this morning), if you read the post I did in the middle of the night to the group, I had an absolutely overwhelming K experience. I am taking all the group's words in right now and figuring out how to proceed. Your points are TOTALLY valid. While I've been getting some alternate forms of exercise, my diet has had zero fats in it. Tonight I'm going for a pizza! Maybe that'll slow me down! lol I need to rethink my routine, as so many of the wonderful members of this group have pointed out.
 
Peace, love, and true understanding to all...
 
Leslee 
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  From: HBktaATnospamaol.com  
  To: ljklinskyATnospamearthlink.net  
  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 2:08 PM 
  Subject: Re: Re kundalinin experiences
   Hi Leslee,  
  Before I write anything else, I will say. WOW!!.  You are doing a lot  
  for someone who has only recently started her yoga practice. 
 
  I thought of a few things today at work that, having now read  
  your practice, 1 seems to apply perhaps 2 and 3 as well?: 
 
  1)Stop or reduce drastically any pranayam that you are doing. Quite  
  possibly you are "overcharging" your system, putting too much stress  
  on your nervous system by your pranayam practice. In your yoga  
  practice you want to find the balance point, doing enough to keep the  
  progress moving but not so much as to unbalance the system.  Your  
  description of your meditation/breathwork seems to indicate you are  
  activating very deep emotional layers. ("Once in a while I find myself  
  moaning these strange, scary other-worldly gutteral-type sounds on  
  exhales")  Although Janov's book "Primal Scream" is more of a  
  commercial than an effort to disseminate knowledge, it might prove  
  interesting reading. 
 
  A quote:  
  "... A cautionary note here.  Pranayama is a very powerful  
  meditative technique. Patterns of breathing are intimately  
  connected, co-related, to psychological and emotional states.    
  Tension generally translates to upper chest, low volume breathing;  
  sobs of grief generally come from the lower abdomen.  While  
  emotions have their characteristic breathing patterns, consciously  
  patterned breath can also be used to induce psychological and  
  emotional states.  Several schools of psychotherapy (Primal  
  Therapy, Janov; Bioenergetics, Lowen; Holotropic Breath work,  
  Groff; to name a few) have integrated breathing techniques into  
  their practice to re-activate past emotional traumas and facilitate  
  reintegration.  Repeat: Pranayama is a very powerful meditative  
  technique.  Especially with nadi sodhana retention or restraint of  
  breath, great care must be taken to ensure proper and exact and  
  regular practice.  Improper execution can result in mental  
  disturbances.  If you are interested to practice pranayama, take the  
  time for personal preparation via asana and meditative practice."     
 
  2) Make sure you get enough alternate forms of exercise: like  
  walking, cycling, aerobic type excercise,  weight training (low  
  weight/high rep)  
  Again the idea is a balanced physical fitness. 
 
  3)Are you eating enough high quality fat (butter or ghee). this is  
  important when doing pranayam. margarine does not make the  
  grade.  
  My teacher called margarine, "poison". 
 
  I also found interesting that the sequence 10-19 is what realy gets  
  the energy going for you. It is very similar to routine that I do,  
  which usually leaves me just lying in corpse, (after about 20  
  minutes of practice) enjoying the bliss/buzz. 
 
  I will write more when I have more time and think about what  
  you have related. For now, I think the thing to try and see  
  how it affects you, is to cut back or stop the pranayam  
  practice. ie the Kapalabhati - 3 rounds of 50 breaths , Analoma  
  Viloma - 10 rounds . 
 
  Ujjaye should be OK. 
 
  Take care,  
  Grant 
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