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Recieved: 2001/09/29  01:42  
Subject: [K-list] Fw: Need Help - Severe Kundalini 
From: L. J. Klinsky
  
On 2001/09/29  01:42, L. J. Klinsky posted thus to the K-list: I couldn't sleep at all because I'm having severe energy rushes. When 
I first woke from my 20-minutes of fitful sleep, it felt like all the 
information in the universe was being downloaded into my mind, way 
faster than I could comprehend. I couldn't hold on to any of the 
information.
 
Thankfully, my cat let me hold him a while and that kind of helped me 
to ground. I dipped my hands in warm water, trying to release the 
intense excess energy. That seemed to help a little. I dumped the bowl 
of water onto a tree outside my window, and that felt good. I still 
had too much energy. I tried full, slow breathing, but I could still 
feel my heartbeat pounding in every cell of my body.
 
I asked Whoever's in Charge to please let me sleep, please limit the 
energy, or please, tell me what s/he wanted me to do. Nothing came to 
me, so here I am, checking for answers to my posts.
 
Today I was in a state of complete bliss, feeling on top of the world, 
like I mattered, like my purpose was close at hand. I was smiling, 
happy, getting along with everyone... Yoga and Pranayama felt great, 
too. I was getting positive answers from this wonderful group here... 
I felt complete body bliss and couldn't see anything wrong with 
feeling that good--Nirvana, I guess it was...
 
Then, I read the below message, and now I'm getting scared again. I 
really hope, Sean, that you won't mind me sharing your e-mail 
response, but I need to get as much information as I can as soon as I 
can. I certainly don't need to be frightened along with everything 
else that's happening to me. And I certainly don't need to feel like 
I'm going insane or something worse.
 
I don't know any gurus around here who are K masters, and I can't 
afford to go anywhere to find one. I would think that if Whoever's in 
Charge wanted me to evolve, then s/he would not destroy me in the 
process just because I'm doing some yoga and meditation (which is 
supposed to be good for the soul). The below message seems to indicate 
that I could be doomed to insanity if I keep going like I am...
 
Please, all, I pray for honest feedback as soon as possible. Do you 
all think I should quit doing yoga and meditation? They're the only 
authentic things going in my life right now...
 
Bless you all,
 
Leslee
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Sean Nomura <electronicmediaATnospamearthlink.net> 
To: L. J. Klinsky <ljklinskyATnospamearthlink.net> 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 12:30 AM 
Subject: Re: Need Help - Severe Kundalini
 > 
> > > So my point here is this, if your Kundalini is fully awake (and 
it 
> > sounds>like it is) and you are practicing methods of yoga by an 
instructor 
> > who does not know the true function behind yoga (to attain Full 
> > Self-Realization) you could be asking for trouble. 
> > 
> > My instructor stresses self-realization a lot, he's just not a 
master. 
> > It's a five-step program he teaches: asanas, breathing, 
> > meditation/positive thinking, diet, and rest. Seems like classic 
yoga 
> > to me. 
 
> Hello again Leslee :) 
> 
> I have seen the terms 'ascended master' and 'enlightened' used in 
very 
> liberal fashions, so I'll be more specific. When I mean Fully 
Self-Realized 
> I'm speaking of higher consciousness - a higher state of awareness 
which 
> one realizes who he/she really is and literally understands the life 
and 
> order of the universe. This higher state of awareness is also known 
as Sat 
> Chit Ananda - Truth Consciousness and Bliss. It is the state in 
which Jesus 
> referred to as the Kingdom of Heaven and Buddha referred to as 
Nirvana. It 
> is believed that higher and higher percentages of the population 
will be 
> Cosmic Conscious as mankind continues to evolve. 
> 
> >> I would guess that cutting down on your yogic practices and/or 
finding 
> >> alternate waystto balance your body/mind would be a great place 
to start. 
> 
> > I love doing yoga. I couldn't imagine a day without it. 
> 
> >> It should be relatively simple to find if these yogic practices 
are 
> >> the 'cause', as your symptoms should begin to lessen as the days 
pass. 
> 
> > Well, I'd sure appreciate you taking a look at my yoga/meditation 
> > techniques above. Because, frankly, I don't want to stop doing it. 
> 
> About year or so after my initial full Kundalini awakening I 
attempted some 
> different meditations. One was focusing on the heart in an attempt 
to 
> cultivate love and the other was a meditation I got off a website 
teaching 
> lessons from A Course In Miracles. Both of these meditations seemed 
to lead 
> to negative results so I discontinued both. Based upon my experience 
and 
> studies regarding Kundalini thus far I have made this deduction: 
> 
> The Kundalini energy is responsible for the development of the 
fetus, and 
> then it becomes responsible for evolving the consciousness of the 
> individual later in life. If we examine a developing fetus, we could 
be 
> overwhelmed with the process that takes place to transform that 
fetus into 
> a human child. Luckily, these processes are automatic and we do not 
have to 
> think about them in order for them to take place. When the Kundalini 
energy 
> is working to turn the human in to a God man we can only assume that 
the 
> process taking place is just as magnificent and complex as the 
first. 
> 
> My point is this... certain yoga and meditation practices can be 
highly 
> disruptive to the natural forces that Goddess (Kundalini) already 
has 
> working inside of you. It is kind of like this... could you imagine 
> somebody trying to play around with the forces of a developing 
fetus? 
> You're probably asking for BIG trouble if you don't know what you 
are 
> doing. Well the same goes for the development of consciousness. A 
teacher 
> of the disciplines who does not know what is going on and where the 
> Kundalini is attempting to ultimately lead the individual is asking 
for BIG 
> trouble. As I have said, this is confirmed with the many distorted 
> specimens in India who practice Yoga. 
> 
> If you feel that you MUST practice yoga then I would highly suggest 
finding 
> an authentic guru who can lead you into a healthy development of 
> consciousness. Any other practices I would say could be placing your 
health 
> and even your sanity at risk. Please take care not to become one of 
the 
> numbers. I think you may realize that an insane individual does not 
know 
> that they are insane. The damage has already been done and could be 
> irreversible. Please be careful and good luck! 
 
> Love and light... 
 
> Sean 
> 
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