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Recieved: 2001/09/20  09:31  
Subject: [K-list] I dont understand why Denise is leaving 
From: Cleocatras
  
On 2001/09/20  09:31, Cleocatras posted thus to the K-list: Dear Denise,
 
I do not understand why you feel you should leave this list. Judgment is  
separating from All that IS. Why are you judging us and separating yourself  
from us? We are all of the same essence. Is it because we are reflecting  
something in your own personal experience that is too hard to face?
 
Yes, I did take a stand on the crisis. Call me anti-American lacking  
patriotism if you like. But in order to be Pro-Human, one must be swimming  
against the current tide in America right now. We are regressing to primitive  
motivations. Our higher selves are forgotten for the more emotional and  
rudimentary motivations. In the same way that I protested the reaction of so  
many Americans to retaliate, it was their judgment and separation from those  
who reside in another part of the world that I protested. In our higher  
consciousness pride is obsolete. Nationalism is just another excuse to  
exercise separation and judgment. These are the dark tools of killing. And  
when we kill for whatever reason called justice, we kill ourselves. We  
succumb to the primitive lack of abundance, the separation from God. The  
separation of acknowledging the truth.
 
What happened to the towers is just a reflection of the hatred we ourselves  
as a nation created by our own misdeeds of foreign interventions. We have  
finally seen the day where Islam's justifiable grievances, feelings, words...  
became another form of energy. A form of energy that the US created in their  
hearts. Retaliation and fear is fear of ourselves and creating more of this  
energy. We do not wish to kill the hatred, we only wish to kill those who  
hate. But it can never be done. This is just another form of terrorism, and  
there is nothing right or just about it. If we wish to kill the hatred itself  
then, judgment and separation and retaliation are exactly what we should not  
do.
 
Setting this all aside, I personally believe that the event was not the  
makings of the terrorists at all. I feel some other underlying establishment  
has used them as a scapegoat, as a viable lie. I fear our killers are the  
money lords of our own nation, drug money driven, and the motive was to  
diminish the focus on knowing about their drug money laundering, and the  
takeover of the masses.
 
That establishment is committed to making the masses slaves to their economy,  
slaves to a drug-ridden, drug driven shallow minded blindedness. Their best  
have mastered the manipulation of the media and the human brain through media  
and drug stimulation. It has created mass oppression of our evolutionary  
destiny. But the New Age has brought the connection to God/dess and has  
become a challenge to them. It was the international banking industry and the  
financial industry, and the federal intelligence which was the target for  
good reason. We were about to realize who "they" were.
 
I truly believe we are being manipulated into a staged series of events.  
"They" have mastered provoking our most primitive motivations. Judgment,  
separation, and even justice, and especially retaliation being all of those.
 
For these reasons, I will never endorse retaliation. It could be true bin  
Laden had nothing to do with what happened.
 
When we finally do find out who the "they" really are, we will all become  
terrorists to undermine them. "They" have control of all the established  
machinery of war, media, and finance. It is our terrorist brothers who are  
independent of all of this and who have some capacity to undermine them. 
Thus even more reason to target them now and get them out of the way.
 
Now you all may think this is a fantasy theory... that is okay. Just hold on  
to the belief that anything is possible and know it could be so. I just  
understand it is our own patriotism which is the monster and shall kill all  
of us, and the "they" who control the elements of what we are led to believe,  
will feed on our primitive motivations until all our freedoms are completely  
gone.
 
Denise, after you described your history and experience, you of all people  
should realize the potential of what I am saying. Separating yourself from a  
place where you are wanted and needed and heard and appreciated -- this has  
me very confused right now.
 
Namaste, 
Cat  http://www.kundalini-gateway.org 
  
 
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