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Recieved: 2001/09/19  18:33  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Projection 
From: Ishshah
  
On 2001/09/19  18:33, Ishshah posted thus to the K-list: Greetings Maria and list,
 
I have not read your other post, but if I were to contemplate the 
unconscious 
from a micro/macro perspective what would the unconscious be in a 
Macrocosmic 
Vibration?  I am going to use the Saivite view of Shiva and Shakti /Maya 
to try to reason this. 
Would not Maya  actually be the unconscious? If we could say yes, 
Maya is Shiva's unconscious, then we can say Shiva experiences all plays 
just like us. 
Shiva allows Shakti full reign as Mother of Manifestation as we allow 
illusion full reign 
until....until.....until what? Until remembering by removal of the 
veils, piercing the chakras. 
In the case of kundalini, She is the doer,  the one who bestows illusion 
as well as liberation 
in her states of being asleep or awake.  In this philosophy, we are not 
the 
Doer, so who is actually teaching compassion and who is learning 
compassion? Or am I remembering compassion by the Grace of the Goddess 
in 
her rising waking liberating form?
 
Those whose director is unconscious 'subs' or memories that are 
programed in by 
earlier experiences, Maya's illusions, lower chakra experience, aren't 
we still embracing illusion. 
Are not looking at the creep and the obese and seeing them as that 
actually a true reflection within? 
But if we look at them and don't see fat and don't see the creep, but 
the inner essence and Light, 
then haven't we seen in  liberated perspectives?
 
Why does our sight change as we awaken? Why does a fat person turn into 
Light instead? 
Because we are liberated from definitions of Maya and now defining the 
world as Shri 
Mahadevyai Liberation Goddess. AUM 
~~~~~~~~ 
Emanating and absorbing? Seems like it would be best to emanate while in 
the world and absorb 
when meditating. No need to absorb illusion, but more need to emanate 
light. Thus, I am 
not becoming them, they are Self - Light and Love too. There is no me 
and them, all is 
Light.  Also, there seems no need to emanate Light in the silence but 
more need to absorb 
more Divine nectar and Grace.
 
Just some reflections 
Ishshah
 
mgb wrote:
 
> 
> Love to everyone, 
> 
> My last postings have been about the Unconscious of the microcosm and 
> macrocosm.  This is a message about projection.  I've recently started 
> new contemplations when I'm out in the world.  For example any person 
> that I see outside I realize that she/he is me, I am fat or I am a 
> B*tch or I am patient, etc.  YIKES is it me or is this draining? I've 
> felt depressed and weak, but observing myself...or trying to.  I'm 
> trying to learn the art of compassion with these contemplations but I 
> dont know if this would be the best way...when I reflect others upon 
> myself does this mean that my energy boundary is broken?  It certainly 
> feels like it.  But still Intution tells me this is the best way to 
> learn how to love the unconscious.  If anyone knows more about 
> projection or what I'm talking about please let me know or tell me 
> your suggestions. Thank you so much. 
> 
> Love light peace, 
> 
> maria 
 
> SAT NAM
  
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