To: K-list
Recieved: 2001/09/10 11:27
Subject: [K-list] MBTI Poll: General Background
From: Druout
On 2001/09/10 11:27, Druout posted thus to the K-list:
Subj: MBTI Poll: General Background
Date: 9/10/2001 9:28:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From: drsbrownATnospamconcentric.net (Suzanne V. Brown)
To: eheshareATnospamegroups.com
CC: drsbrownATnospamconcentric.net (Suzanne V. Brown), sharwebbATnospamalltel.net,
druoutATnospamaol.com
*"MBTI Poll" survey of participants reported August 24-31, 2001*
Many thanks to everyone who participated in the "look alike" Myers-Briggs
Type Indicator (MBTI) located at http://www.halonline.com/psych/.
Disclaimer from CAPT: *Warning. There are many pirated sites of the MBTI®
instrument on the World Wide Web. Please check Related Organizations for
legitimate sources of information. Many psychological type instruments
posted on the web have not undergone reliability and validity testing,
which ensures accuracy of results.*
Okay. So we understand that this interaction was a fun thing to do, rather
than anything formal.
***Many, many heartfelt Thanks!! to Hillary, and Sharon Webb, for gathering
profiles and engaging participants from their respective Lists!! :-))***
**********************
Our basic goal of this exploration was:
Suzanne to Eheshare List: "In the pulse of
taking a short form, a fun five minute "preference indicator" on these four
dichotomous points, we are simply catching tallies of preferences over
about 40 questions - to share with each other - to understand better our
group dynamics and profile. We are also interested in learning more about
the "who" who join on-line exceptional human experience discussion groups."
Also, some people have been retested after a major life and/or exceptional
experience, and already have a document of their "before" experience with
the MBTI originally used. Results show that profiles along the four scales
can and do often (but not all the time) change in more or less intensity
along a single letter, and moreover, sometimes even to "flip" into another
side (of a dichotomous letter) all together. Theoretically, and across a
factual sample of these kinds of before-after profiles, this may show that
folks who have had major life (and/or EE) switches and integrate (EHE)
them, are often more facile to offer discussion/ feedback/ talk with others
and be comfortable with being in another's shoes. This is particuarly true
when we look at the inner 2 factors of the letters in our profile: the
inner S/N and T/F matrix.
About those the pointers to our inner matrix, E/I and J/P: For these
labels, contrary to popular meaning, they are considered "orientations" in
the outer world and also have secondary meanings. That is, the J and P
points to whether we would rather be decisive about self and world or
perceive more about self and world... a choice within a choice, so to
speak. The E/I tells us a little more about where we prefer to give our
best: to outside to others or keep our best to ourself, our inner
world. So, even a MBTI scale can be and is very complex. Like many other
indicators, experiences, they can be as deep or as surface as we choose to
understand them.
Within that 4-letter profile, there is a possibility of 16 types. And
within those types, there are degrees of slight to strong preferences.
Reflecting our uniqueness and our similarities, and where we overlap each
other.
I felt this was important to say at the beginning, because there does seem
to be some concern in the groups that "Judging" means "judgemental of
others". It simply is a way of describing which we prefer: to "make
decisions about self and our world (the "other" qualifies as world as well)
via the factor of Thinking or Feeling." With Perception, we prefer to
capture information either by Sensing or iNtuition. The Extrovert/
Introvert scale tells us which of the inner factors/ matrix we prefer to
hold close to us and what/ how we prefer to share.
This study, is relevant to all EEer's and EHE'ers because it MAY be a way
for us to tap into our own inner changes, shifts (before-after) along the
EHE process. Further, it may show in these befores and afters, how our
views of "other" and the outer world might shift. Depending on our tasks at
hand, we are certainly able to float across as needed, in many cases.
But if there is any question, I often ask: if you took this profile as a
child, what would you have figured? And after answering these profiles as
a child, recalling, where do we catch our changes, particularly after those
types of experiences? EHEs, in particular, can be life/ perspective shifting.
********************
List information shared about the groups who participated:
The EHE Network was founded by Rhea A. White and its web discussion
List EHEshare started in mid-2000, includes 80 members. The List is
moderated by Palyne Gaenir and Anne Kahn (on temporary leave). "The
Exceptional Human Experience Network, Inc. (EHEN) is an educational,
research, and information resource organization studying all types of
anomalous (out of the ordinary) experiences. Because these experiences are
primarily subjective, scientists tend to ignore them. They do not fit into
today's scientific theory, and our culture typically does not have a way to
understand and deal with them. People who have these types of experiences
are often not believed, or are considered odd or strange. We take a very
different approach. We view these types of experiences as potential
starting points for positive, personal, life-enriching, and even
life-changing growth. We believe that by valuing these experiences in new
ways, and sharing them (even anonymously) with other experiencers, we all
gain meaningful insights into ourselves and our world. When these insights
occur and we find a way to grow in a way that enables us to integrate and
internalize them, what was an anomaly becomes an Exceptional Human
Experience, or EHE."
The Kundalini-Gateway List includes 552 members and is moderated by
Mystress Angelique Serpent. List description: "Originally established as
the Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, June 1996. This list is for the free exchange
of information, advice and friendship among those interested in,
undergoing, or in any way involved with the awakening of Kundalini energy.
By the very nature of the phenomena, such a process touches upon every
aspect of life. As a result, this list is set up to be a forum in which
list members should feel able to post openly on any subject which is
related to this topic. "Where two or more are ..." "
Pulse includes 60 members and was founded and is moderated by Sharon. She
notes that "Pulse is more than a list however. In it's third year now,
Pulse is a closed group of predominately Seth material readers who are
interested in online metaphysical energy "exercises." We have around sixty
members and meet twice a week online for two hour sessions. When we began
Pulse only two of us channeled. Now more than half do. A large percentage
of members are kundalini active. About half of those became K active since
the inception of Pulse."
Sacred Kundalini List description: "SacredKundalini moderated by Maureen
has 206 members. This list encompasses the higher octaves of the Kundalini
spiritual awakening with its beauties, potentials and mysteries. Inspiring,
(but not too syrupy) stories are welcome as also, because Spirit is joyful,
an occasional joke."
HarshaSatsangh List notes: "HarshaSatsangh has 448 members and Harsha
moderates this one. This spiritual discussion group is an open Satsang and
is blessed by Sri Ramana Maharshi, the great Jnani Sage of Arunachala.
HarshaSatsangha is in the best tradition of a joyous spiritual fellowship
for facilitating the Recognition of the Eternal Reality that is One's Own
Self. 'I Am That!' This is the uncompromising, simple, and yet Radical
Truth proclaimed in a variety of ways by the ancient and modern Sages of
Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism, and Taoism. In Advaita Vedanta, the highest
teaching ..."
Hillary notes: There are at least 75 discussion groups today that focus on
Kundalini.
*********************
Type (temperament) Indicators from participant volunteers were gathered and
tallied by Hillary, Sharon, and Suzanne from their respective groups
between August 24- August 31, 2001. The http://www.halonline.com/psych
version of "short-form" MBTI was utilized for participant convenience, a
quick turn around of results, and a common point of reference for discussion.
Some helpful, basic background FAQ information about the Myers-Briggs Type
Indicator (MBTI) may be found at: http://www.mbti-mbti.com/. This includes
succinct definitions for each of the 16 type combinations and each of the
four letters that comprise your type. Extrovert/ Introvert; Sensing/
iNtuitive; Thinking/ Feeling; Judging/ Perception.
Short notes/ synopsis:
E = batteries are regenerated by outer (environment and others)
I = batteries are regenerated by inner (environment and self)
S = five senses, grounded, realistic, action, Now experience based
N = "other" senses, inspired, patterns, imaginal, Possibility based
T = logic, debate, principles, solution-oriented decisions
F = harmony, sharing, people, circumstance-oriented decisions
J = time-oriented, decisive, planful, completion, self-regimented
P = spontaneous, gathering, playful, starting, task depends on ...
Example of profiles* across general populations in the Western world:
E/ 75% I/ 25%
S/ 75% N/ 25%
T/ 50% F/ 50% (roughly)
J/ 50% P/ 50% (roughly)
*Reference: Keirsey. D. & Bates, M. (1984). Please Understand Me, Del Mar,
CA: Prometheus Nemesis Book Co. That book that can be found in most public
libraries, where there are 2-3 pages of information regarding each
temperament profile and a wealth of information about the history, various
factors and relationships.
In my simple search of keyword "MBTI" using just the Excite Search, I found
over 2000 websites. Many have their own versions of MBTI forms and
information. The more lengthy, statistically tested over a wide population,
MBTI questionnaire for adults (Form G) includes 126 questions. It is
largely based on Jung's theory that people could be identified by their
different - and equally valuable - preferences for viewing and
understanding the world, and themselves. Briggs and Myers were the
mother-daughter team who first adopted Jung's theory to create a
questionnaire that could be useful to people across a wide field of
applications, such as organizational communications, career decisions,
relationships, time management, group dynamics, and so on.
References including Consulting Psychologists Press (CPP) and Center for
Applications of Psychological Type (CAPT) in any search for information, as
well as Keirsey's books, Jungian psychchology provide good sources of
background information.
[To continue, go to MBTI Poll: Results]
http://www.kundalini-gateway.org
DISCLAIMER!
Home | Archive Index | Search the archives | Subscribe
K. List FAQ | Kundalini FAQs | Signs and Symptoms | Awakening Experiences | K. list Polls | Member Essays | Meditations | List Topics | Art Gallery | Cybrary | Sitemap | Email the moderators.
symbol.