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Recieved: 2001/08/19  23:59  
Subject: [K-list] epilepsy and K experience 
From: Anne North
  
On 2001/08/19  23:59, Anne North posted thus to the K-list: Hello to all on the list
 
my apologies to the person who answered my letter, due to my lack of 
experience I managed to delete the e-mail before remembering the name! I 
must admit that I am slightly reluctant to discuss my past experiences due 
to reactions from other people and a past Neurologist. 
But here goes anyway... 
Although my epilepsy started during my late youth, I knew when I was a child 
that I was "different". I was a sick child and I was always falling over and 
getting bumps on the head. I can remember seeing colours around peoples 
heads (I can still see auras if I concentrate) and I can also remember 
knowing the morality of people before I got to know them, not anything 
complex, just knowing if they were good or bad.I was always a spiritual and 
visual person, although my parents are not. Most of my experiences have been 
profoundly visual. 
One visual K experiencewas the heart Cha blossoming into a rose which 
enveloped itself and multiplied over and over like a two celled creature 
under a microscope. The experience was almost geometric, I understood how 
the Cha grew on a "seed" level, The feeling I had was that the geometric 
pattern had become in love with itself and the love needed to reproduce (I'm 
not sure if you will understand what I mean). During my years at 
Uni,(Bachelor in Fine Arts and Religious Education - I feel like I am 
writing a resume!!), I started to realise I had other 'gifts'. I would sit 
in front of people and unfocus my eyes, tears would start to flow and I 
would start to 'see' other faces over the normal one. Any ideas? 
Although these experiences sound nice, most are not. I have had many OBE 
that have left me exhausted and scared.All have happened when I have been 
asleep, this is also when I have the most epileptic activity, I realise I am 
conscious in my room and at first I think I am awake. I try to move my arms, 
I 'see' them moving, but then moments after I realise that I have not moved 
them at all. I struggle for some time in my 'coma' body. It feels as though 
about 15 mins go by but I cant be sure. While I am having this experience  
the concept of time goes out the window.I will be trying to move my arm , 
going through certain motions and arm flexes, then time will seem to 'flip' 
and I will have the same experience again. If you are thinking that this is 
wonderful and sci-fi it is NOT. Some of the most horrible feelings I have 
felt was under OBE. After trying to move with no warning I will be out of 
body. Normally I walk around the room as normal, I don't 'float' on the 
ceiling as most OBE's do. Sometimes the furniture is in different positions, 
it is for this reason I am quite willing to listen to people who think I am 
just having a hallucination, why would the furniture be different? I spend 
most of my time being worried about how I will get back into my body (waking 
up is just as difficult) my normal interest in other realms is eaten by 
fear. I also try to hide from other 'things' that seem to dwell in this 
realm. Once I tried to hide under the bed to escape 3 'monks' complete in 
Franciscan robes! They totally ignored me. 
After writing all this I would like to say that I would not want to live 
without these experiences. I consider my epilepsy to be a gift that allows 
me to experience other realms and I don't feel I would have my love for 
spiritual experience without it. 
Thanks for listening 
Dishpan 
 
  
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