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Recieved: 2001/07/25 11:56
Subject: [K-list] Fwd: Re: twin flames
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 2001/07/25 11:56, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
Promised forwarded post of a private conversation Nancy and I had, some
time ago.. Enjoy!
>Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:24:49 -0800
>To: "Brook, Nancy" <nbrookATnospambillingsclinic.org>
>From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <MystressATnospamKundalini-Gateway.org>
>Subject: Re: twin flames
>
> Nancy, you blow my mind. I've learned a lot from what my higher self
> teaches you in your dreams.. :) This is HUGE!! You have just handed me
> an insight I have been seeking for YEARS and I will probably take some
> time to process it and fully unfold the amazing gift package that it is.
> Thank you.
>
>At 08:26 AM 11/8/00, you wrote:
>>Hiya Angelique,
>>
>>I was going to post this to the <..> group, but I'm unable with our new
>>server at work to relay messages through my nancyATnospamwtp.net account. I have to
>>use my work address to send here.
>
> I'll forward it. I'll send it to <...> too, if you don't mind..
>
>>Anyway, I wanted to tell you that I had an interesting dream while I was
>>away for a conference in Las Vegas earlier this week. You told me what twin
>>flames really are!
>
> I did?
>
>>Your TF is not one particular person or soul, rather it is being one with
>>another.
>
> yup, that makes sense.. any experience of Tantric unity with
> anyone. There is only One soul and it's God-dess.
>
>>For some reason, the oneness only goes to the heart chakra. Below
>>the heart, you can be one with someone. I guess because these are the tribal
>>chakras. Above the heart resides the chakras which represent your
>>individuality. If you try to be one with another at this level, you lose
>>your expression, your intuition and your higher being.
>
> ups. I think that might explain a lot about why I become allergic to
> some of my students.. because those are exactly the symptoms that bring
> out the alpha Wolf to set me free.. I'm dumbfounded. You have answered a
> question that has bothered me, for years..
>
> I'm going to spend a lot of time thinking about this.. grok it fully.
> This
>unlocks some mysteries of D/s tantra too, I think.. why Dominance and
>submision has different energy rules from how the flow works in equality.
> Fascinating.
>
>>Does this make sense to you? If you wouldn't mind filling in the blanks, I
>>would appreciate it!
>
> LOL!! I can try! I'm still trying to grok it myself. When I really
> do, I'll be able to write a book about it.. ! Wow.... of course, when
> it's really integrated, I'll be able to distill it down to a sentence as
> my/your higher self did.
>
> There really are 2 different universes above and below the heart..
> and the ones above the heart are difficult if not impossible to put into
> words. But I'll try.. because I know you live there... and because by
> explaining it to you I'll understand it better.
>
> I think you might understand it more easily if you replace
> "individuality" with "duality"... above the heart is non-duality. There
> is no "other" to unify with. You cannot create one ness with someone
> because All is already One. Oneness is, so creating "someone" to create
> unity with is trying to create separation in Divine Unity. Like trying to
> bring matter into an anti-matter universe. It blows up. You fall from
> grace and take a quick trip thru Hell =separation from God-dess... as
> you put it, "you lose your expression, your intuition and your higher
> being". Hell is that.
>
> Your relationship with your own Divinity is primary: "I AM THAT" and
> everything is an extension/reflection of your Self. That unique
> perspective of how Goddess sees the world thru YOUR eyes is the
> "invdividuality" that you lose. Not the individual=separateness we call ego.
>
> In the higher chakra universe you cannot fall in love.. you ARE
> love. You are "in love" with life itself.. anything less is a non-issue.
> You can be very close to people and have sex and intimacy and friends,
> daily life may be more blissful than the greatest romance and you orgasm
> from spectacular sunsets and ripe fruit...
>
> ... but that "in love" bug process, "folly a deux" madness of addiction
> to a person that is the stuff of romance novels, just doesn't work..
> either it's a non-issue or it blows up good every time you try it.
>
> People in the lower chakra universe may fall in love with you, and even
> have spectacular obsessions about who they think you are.. but if you
> fall in love with them back, then the boat sinks. Like when the Titanic
> kissed an iceberg.
>
> If you try to unify with another person then you are making them be
> God for you and so you lose your own connection to the Divine, give your
> power away to them and forget yourself... thus, I am slave to Goddess
> and put none before Her.. coz if I do I get really messed up very quickly
> and so do they.
>
> Robert Hienlien defined "love" as "when the happiness and well being
> of another out weighs all other considerations". That is a lovely
> description for love in the lower chakras. True Love. There is separation
> in the lower chakras so you can project God-dess onto someone in the way
> that is the magic of "falling in love" and it works.
>
> If you have not access to the higher chakras as most folks don't, then
> it can keep working. For unawakened folks who have directed their lower
> chakra energy into procreation and pair bonding, "in love" is a dandy
> system for continuing the species and I am glad there are people who do
> it. I quote Robert to them on the card for their wedding.. Blessed be.
>
> In the higher chakra universe that is attained by awakened people,
> Robert's definition makes no sense at all. It's a prescription for
> disaster. Made nonsensical because there be no "other" to be considerate
> of. Made into a silly idea by knowledge that Free Will is Goddess Law.
> You cannot control how someone else chooses to feel, unless they allow
> it. You cannot control if someone will choose to feel happiness or not
> because happiness truly comes from within..
> So in the higher chakras, making what someone else does more important
> than following Divine will within yourself is a prescription for
> disaster. The road to Hell is paved with Good intentions kind of disaster.
>
> Yet, my slaves give their power and will to me, and so long as their
> ego does not resist it is blissful. I make little effort to unify with
> them, their free will choice to surrender is a dynamic that creates the
> unity.. they abandon themselves to experience my world, project Goddess
> onto me and get back Shakti that does the work cleansing the karma-junk
> from them while their free will is out of the way.
> It usually takes about 3- 6 months shaktipat mainline of a leash
> cleansing their karma to full awakening, if they do not resist me. I get
> a feedback of some processing info, mostly to give them words to assist
> surrender when their ego is trying to resist. The more they surrender,
> the smoother and faster it gets. I have had a few people who awakened
> fully in an afternoon, if their potential was ready.
>
> They abandon ego and free will to come into my universe and hang out
> while their body catches up. From a higher chakra universe I can clear a
> ton of karma from someone so long as they surrender it willingly. So
> long as they are willing to join me in my universe by surrendering their
> ego whenever it appears, it is blissful...
>
> It takes them some time longer than .. usually about a year after they
> have ascended, to get the hang of living in the higher chakra universe
> and building faith in their own inner guidance. After that the body is
> basically clear and they spend the rest of their life time unkinking and
> redesigning their DNA to ever more fully manifest the individuality that
> Goddess designed to be their ideal potential.
>
> Where slavery gets quickly messed up all round is if they resist.
> Resistance blocks the flow. If they try to hold onto the ego-resistance
> that Shakti is clearing from the body while they are in my upper chakra
> universe all Hell breaks loose. The more they try to hold on the worse it
> gets.
>
> They start to go crazy from pressure of my Shakti and I get thrashed
> by the blockages of their resistance in my body cutting me off from
> Source. It's Hell. We are in unity, so I cannot avoid the pain of their
> resistance. Their blockage is stuck in me until they either give it up or
> I find a way to separate from them.
>
> When slaves graduate, at ego-death I have to turn them loose.. slave
> games don't work in the upper chakras. They have to become slaves to
> Goddess within themselves, not slaves to Goddess within Mystress.
>
> This idea can be disappointing to some slaves, so they have an option
> to renew the collar after their 3 day solo visionquest of rebirth, if
> Goddess Within themselves allows it, but the rules change if they do.
>
> Like p... His own Divine Beloved is his primary Mistress. he enjoys
> his surrender to me because She allows it. In tantric unity he gets to
> feel my universe for a while .. where his illness is less. It does not
> affect me because he is in a state of deep surrender. He is projecting
> Goddess onto me from his lower chakras, with sexual pleasure but his ego
> is not interfering with what Goddess/me does.. he does not try to bring
> his ego into the upper chakra universe. He leaves it behind, with his
> surrender.
>
> That's why I'm very selective about who comes into the Tribe. Because
> novices will inevitably try to bring their ego into an upper chakra
> circle and we all get hit by the shrapnel when they blow up like
> Unconditional Love Bomb Hiroshima. We are them, so the circle is only as
> strong as it's weakest member.
>
> Hmm.. I know I'm not describing it very well. The simplest way I can
> think of, to describe it is that loving someone is only possible in the
> lower chakras where there is separation for the love to go from one
> person to another and be transmitted thru time-space.
>
> In the higher chakra universe, you Are love and so are they, the unity
> is inherent. Love Is. We are I AM. There is only one of us and it is All
> of us. Time-space is Not.
> In order to be loving or have enough separation to be "in love" you
> have to break with that unity and when you do you fall from grace. You go
> back to looking for love instead of being love. Looking for God instead
> of Being That. Hell is defined as separation from God.
>
> So.. yes, I think after all this babbling, I understand it well
> enough to say it simply. There can only be twin flames in the lower
> chakra universe of duality, because in the upper chakra universe, there
> is only One Infinite Fire and any attempt to separate it into 2 flames
> will instead separate you from the Fire. It will knock you flat on your
> ass into a cold dark place where there is no fire at all.
> Ah!
> On a higher chakra level, the twin flames are the One infinite fire.
> On a lower chakra level, the twin flames are also really both the one
> fire. It looks like two flames because there is a mirror illusion. What
> you see is the One fire and it's reflection. Yeah, that's it...:)
> Blessings and thanks.
>
>>Nancy
>
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