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Recieved: 2001/07/22  12:20  
Subject: [K-list] Zen Quotes 
From: Tracym
  
On 2001/07/22  12:20, Tracym posted thus to the K-list: If I am holding a cup of water and I ask you, "is the cup empty?" 
you will say "No, it is full of water."  But if i pour out the water  
and I ask you again, you may say, "yes, it is empty."  but, empty 
of what?....My cup is empty of  water, but it is not empty of air. 
To be empty is to be empty of something..... When Avalokita  
[Kuan-Yin, or Kannon, the bodhisattva who embodies Compassion] 
says [in the Heart Sutra] that the five skandas are equally empty,  
to help him be precise, we must ask "Mr. Avalokita,  empty of what?" 
The five Skandas, which may be translated into english as the five  
heaps, or five aggregates, are the five elements of that comprise the  
human being.....In fact, these are really five rivers flowing together in us: 
the river of form, which means our body, the river of mental formations,  
the river of feelings, the river of perceptions and the river of  
consciousness. They are always flowing within us... Arvalokita  
looked deeply into the five skandas...and discovered none of them 
can be by itself alone....Form is empty of a separate self, but it is  
full of everything else in the cosmos. The same is true with feelings, 
perceptions, mental formations, and consciousness. 
 
Thich Nat Hanh> The Heart of Understanding 
 
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No thought, no reflection, no analysis, no cultivation, no intention;  
let it settle itself....Tilopa.
 
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Hmm....both together.
 
  
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