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Recieved: 2001/07/10  15:36  
Subject: chat party today! Re: [K-list] christ with a new name and sexual energies transmutation 
From: Sculptor
  
On 2001/07/10  15:36, Sculptor posted thus to the K-list: hi
 
i just want to say we can help each other go somewhere in life and  
not just talk to show our intelectual skills or if we don´t like a  
person´s face we just don´t pay attention and say just another nut  
case that crossed my perfect judgement.
 
should´t we be more humble and don´t brag about powers that we don´t  
have and experiences that we don´t know about but pretend we have  
just to impress the need for others to be in our domain, wich i think  
to be the case of some people in this list, don´t just deny what you  
think to be a nut case because someday it will happen to you and will  
hapen to you. what i wanted with this discussion is the consciness  
that anybody can experience, wich is the conscieness of christ, and  
that´s because there are many people that say they are christ or god,  
because they reached a state of mind that people who live in normal  
day to day job or the game as some call it, don´t understand. 
that´s why i was so interested in you opinion. 
i´m not preaching nothing, but be your most pure self and don´t judge  
nobody for anything and if he wins the world be grateful that he  
isn´t another moron that takes away our money and makes us play this  
infernal stupid game 9 to 5 or more in 3 world countries and the  
sistem game let´s us have an orgasm to makes us smile and called the  
perfect world fot 5 minutes or for 4 or 5 hours if you are in to that  
so called sofisticated man that practices the new so called miracle  
sex or tantric sex, well the world gives us illusions and it gives us  
the ones that we like that´s why i say sex and mundane pleasures are  
a candy that keeps us prisioners in a world of desire. people that  
like this world are poor people in imagination at least and i´m not  
just thinking about people in phisical misery, but in psychological  
terms as wells in the modern cities today.
 
it often comes to mind the noah´s time, when everybody laught and  
called him stupid man, oh you stupid man, came with us and have fun,  
just eat,drink & have sex that´s what life´s about, and then came  
death and said ehheheheheh, you fall for the illusion. so what can we  
take from this is that perseverance in truth pays. --- In Kundalini-GatewayATnospamy..., Mystress Angelique Serpent  
<mystressATnospamf...> wrote: 
> At 06:38 AM 7/10/01, sculptorATnospamy... wrote: 
> >hi 
> > 
> >since there are so many experts in how christ should be if he came  
to 
> >this planet, then i going to make a challenge: 
>  
>      Why do you feel the need to make a challenge? i just want to tease you, make the list talk. :) 
 
>  
> >how should crhist dress if he came to earth? 
>  
>     Well, last time he showed up, he dressed in the fashions of the  
times..  
> so it is a pretty good guess that he would this time, too. That he  
would  
> walk around in a robe and a crown of thorns is a bizarre idea! 
> 
 
well the man says god told him to dress that way because it´s  
simbolic and in the bible talks of that kind of cloth in revelation. 
 
> >if there is only goddess, why jesus talked about a father? 
>  
>     Who said there is only Goddess? Did you ever hear of something  
called  
> the council of Constantinple? They did a huge editing hack job of  
the Bible  
> around 500 AD, took out anything they didn't like.. including  
references to  
> God the Mother: which is what Christ called the Holy Spirit.  
Kundalini.  
> Goddess. 
> 
 
what i was saying is that don´t forget about the father
 
i know there´s a mother, because i´ve seen it and i drunked all that  
poisoned water called love after that i just floated  low throug the  
gigantic sea that is mother god.
 
> >why is always others who are Kundalini psychosis and the many  
people 
> >on the list? 
>  
>      Why, are you afraid you have it too? 
>  
> >mistress angelique dresses in a unusual way, has she Kundalini 
> >psychosis when she says she´s a sourcer or whatever nosense she  
says 
> >she is? 
>  
>     Oh, probably..:) 
> 
 
i din´t meant that in a offensive way but to compare people´s way of  
seeing the world, that doesn´t make them crazy.
 
> >if she beliefs in something does this makes her what she 
> >says, then the same what she says about Inri applies to her or 
> >whatever person in this list that talks but don´t practice. 
>  
>       Practice, practice, practice.. seems like that is all I  
do.. :)
 
well you are not the list and not all the people that seem to have an  
opinion on everything, including subjects that they don´t understand. 
>  
>     Speaking of which, chat party today! I have been feeling a bit  
under  
> the weather of late, and my investigations into why, suggests that  
the  
> answer is what I read in "Spiritual Emergence".. namely, that some  
Shamans  
> get sick if they don't do enough work.. enough healing. Kind of  
makes  
> sense, the energy is meant to flow and being on a  yacht in the  
middle of  
> nowhere doesn't allow many opportunities for that sort of thing.  
So,  
> starting at 3pm PDT I will be in the K-list chatroom offering my  
talents to  
> all comers. That would be about 3 hours from now.. 
> http://www.homestead.com/Kundalini_Gateway/comm.html 
>  
> >yes, kundalini arises the sexual energies but everyone that has 
> >experience in the spiritual world knows that letting go of that 
> >energy is the same thing that if you cut your wings and if you cut 
> >your wings you don´t fly in the spiritual world, you stay always 
> >prisioner in this world. 
>  
>       ???? What?
 
ejaculation takes your energy away and kundalini doesn´t go up and  
melt all the blocks or traumas of your mind. 
>  
> >about the prostitutes and his relationship with them: 
> > 
> >he says that he won the world, oh animals, because he experienced  
the 
> >world but he got back to eden or a celestial state of mind 
>  
>      We never left Eden.. it just looks like it because the apple  
is some  
> kind of trip! 
> 
 
we left eden when we tasted sex and then we lost the notion of  
kundalini arouse and went lost in the world making sex our false  
eden, now we are trying to go there again after the boom of sexual  
experiences and emptyness.
 
> >and i say: if anybody in this list have no sin then throw the rock 
>  
>     You seem to be throwing rocks, oh sinless one.. bent out of  
shape 
 
i have sins but i reject the material world and i don´t want to throw  
rocks but warn about the way people judge others by an image or dress  
like or by the sins that he commited. just open the heart and forgive  
youself first.
 
> because we would not accept your "Savior"? Why is it so important  
to you? 
> 
 
it´s not that he is so important, it´s because people expect a  
glorious crist that has power to defeat satan and his people, but  
that it´s just not going to happen. because this is not the promissed  
world and we are not going to live here after judgment day, this  
planet is a simbolic dimension place that is transformed after we  
reach that state of mind called eden. angels just come here to warn  
humans or fallen angels about the prison they are in, then they die.
 
> >and i say more: if anybody in this list knows of eden state of  
mind, 
> >then he or she can talk about the sins of others or the Kundalini 
> >psychosis  of others 
>  
>     I know it. Do you know it?
 
well if you know, it then you are capable of making miracles and heal  
the sick and humble of spirit.
 
i keep myself out of the discussion since i don´t claim i jesus or  
xaman or whatever, just a simple yogi monk with anger for knowledge. 
 
>    If you do not then how do you know what it is like, to  be able  
to make  
> judgments about how those who are there would behave. For that  
matter, if  
> this christo dude knows it too, then why is he judging the world as  
being  
> full of sinners needing to be "saved"? Ah.. because he is in Eden? 
 
because he came to warn the world of his end as we know it and the  
way of life as we know it, he is comming to give wings to the angels  
and separate the people of god from the people of satan and above all  
say that the roman church and the pope are the prostitute and satan  
followers.
 
Well,  
> every small town preacher does the same thing, and all the Spanish  
> Inquisition.. so are they all in Eden? 
>    Gotcha! :) 
> 
 
don´´t compare the incomparable 
> >don´t judge not to be judged 
>  
>      You are judging the whole list with your challenges and bent  
out of  
> shape hurt feelings.. that you express them as questions doesn't  
change  
> what they are.. Try this one: "Practice what you preach." 
> 
 
i don´t preach i just open my heart and he talks
 
> >ps - jesus.com is a horny sales man with good marketing skills and 
> >webdesigners not christ 
>  
>     He says he is not christ, duh.. he states clearly that his  
friends  
> nicknamed him Jesus because of how he looks and how he likes to  
speak of  
> spirituality. So, he is not suffering from Kundalini psychosis..  
unlike Mr  
> Cristo. 
> 
 
this guy his an iconoclast and a sick man seeking a way to have sex  
with young girls that some believe he is christ and want to make love  
to him.
 
> >this man INRI CRISTO is a spiritual man, because you don´t  
understand 
> >portuguese does´t mean his wrong and christ does wear a suit 
> >i don´t have absolute truths but i don´t judge people instantly 
> >nor i believe instantly, at least have the decency to read or know 
> >what is talking about 
> > 
> >http://www.inricristo.org.br/- read , don´t just see the images. 
>  
>     Sheesh! Here is the english version of his site! Did you even  
read what  
> you are promoting?? 
> http://www.inricristo.org.br/index10.html 
> 
 
yes, but they just watched the pictures, because they thinked it was  
comics. well i say just because the man has a stupid face doesn´t  
make him stupid.that´s the problem with society in our days, it  
judges people on how they look and not, what they´re ideias e  
fellings are.
 
>     I read it, and I still think he is a nut case. 
> 
 
ehehheh, you not even talked to him yet. 
let me say that i wouldn´t be in your hands in a spiritual crisis or  
psicological advice. you judge at a distance.
 
> >i´m not asking to believe, but to discuss the matter. 
>  
>     We are discussing it.. just not quite the way you had hoped! 
>      Blessings..
 
i´m not expecting kisses from you, but it would be nice to see you be  
gentle once in a while 
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