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Recieved: 2001/07/02 14:40
Subject: Re: Ecstasy storms was Re: Fw: [K-list] Flashes from the Indigo Void
From: Wim Borsboom
On 2001/07/02 14:40, Wim Borsboom posted thus to the K-list:
Dear Hillary and Christopher,
Christopher wrote:
> > Ecstacy is nothing more than a self induced mesmerismic
> > state which the mind has developed as a coping mechanism
> > so that it does not have to deal with the memories that
> > the body wants to release .
Hillary wrote:
> Whooo Boy, do I ever disagree with this! I think this is a very
puritanical
> way of looking at ecstasy/bliss. For me ecstasy is a physical
sensation--a
> translation of the body's reaction to K energy.
> *It is our essential nature.*
Yes, for each one of us 'ecstasy / bliss/ glory" is:
our *a priori nature*
the divine expression
of wholeness and holiness
of each and every entity
in the vast range of entities
... all encompassing ...
from the utmost simple
to the utmost complex
the one to the all
the one in all
the all in one
Yes, therefore for each one of us 'ecstasy / bliss/ glory" is:
. our original primal and primary human nature
. our essential human nature
(as in material existence of the most subtle kind)
. our physical human nature
(as in material existence of the 'grosser kind)
Our in-alienable birthright as divine human beings
Unfortunately, for most of us humans it has to be re-found, unveiled,
reclaimed, on a 'one human at a time' basis.
Pretty well each one of us humans needs to re-cognize and re-claim our
in-alienable divinity, as it got so early on, in pretty well each of our
individual lives hidden away, veiled off, denied, ignored, blasphemed.
By the way, each *individual* has only one life, the 'past lives
concept' does not work the way some claim it to work... but let me not
get side tracked...
Although in-alienable, so early on, in almost each one of our lives,
this 'a priori divine bliss' got illusively denied and ignored through
illusive control games using conditional 'if... then...' maneuvers.
The illusion impacted upon us very strongly, but only mentally, through
the hypothetical *conditionals* of punishment, harm, fear, control,
spell, sentencing, judgment, threat, curse, excommunication, doom, etc.
All these are tools in a strategy of illusion and delusion, a game of
the illusion of malice and maliciousness based on an erroneous and
fallacious philosophy in which the concept of opposites is treated as
more real than the 'relative' nature of things, the play of
relationship, connectedness, love... not the game of (per se
impossible) separation, torn-ness and hatred.
This not an opinion...
THIS IS SO
List members who know me, know that I am not bullshitting.
I would like to advise Christopher though, to carry on with his ideas
about the origins of this almost primal fear, also about our common
human-kind memory of a possible earliest such circumstance...
(Chaos theory is helpful to eventually lead us a very simple and freeing
answer...)
Christopher, we do not have to adhere to a "genetic" paradigm... In fact
the danger is, when we do that, then some of us would use that as an
excuse to not being able to reclaim their originality... We are not
doomed... not genetically, not judgmentally, not as though under a
spell, or through a curse or as though we are pronounced to be
'unwholesome' simply because we are humans... That is too Judeo /
Christian, too Calvinist, too Lutheran a view. (It is definitely not
Jesus Christ's view)
Original sin is not ours.
Original glory is us
> As Sri Ramana Maharshi said:
> "What is Bliss but your own being? You are not apart from Being which
is the
> same as Bliss. You are now thinking that you are the mind or the body
which
> are both changing and transient. But you are unchanging and eternal.
That
> is what you should know....you cannot find Bliss in places and in
periods of
> time. It must be permanent in order that it may be useful. Such
permanent
> being is yourself. Be the Self and that is Bliss. You are always
that."
This Ramana Maharshi guy is so right on...
Love, Wim
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