To: K-list 
Recieved: 2001/06/21  08:43  
Subject: Re: [K-list] reflections on "selfish" and what love really is 
From: Stephanie
  
On 2001/06/21  08:43, Stephanie posted thus to the K-list:  
--- CLEOCATRAsATnospamaol.com wrote: 
 
> > I am trying to teach myself to be selfish. It is 
> really hard for me to do  
> this, but I am starting to like it
 Cat,
 
I think selfish is a word that needs to be 
re-evaluated.  I think selfish is the only way to 
really heal, and to really love others, because we 
have to love ourselves first.  People think that 
selfish is against others. I found that in my life, 
when I started to learn to do what is good for my 
needs, when I started thinking about my own desires 
and goals and answering my own heart, then I began to 
have the fullness from which I could really give from 
love and not some sense of what love should be.  I 
think it is so hard to remember that we must first be 
full before we can really learn to give to others.  If 
we give to others out of our un-resolved heart, we 
create more dissonance eventually.  Resentment in 
ourselves and only more hunger and empty and tired 
longing lingering in the hearts of those around us.
 
I don't always catch up on the mail here....it is too 
much for me to wade through and I haven't been around 
the computer much lately, but I wanted to say hello to 
Benoit, so if you read this Benoit, a smile from your 
friend in Dallas.
 
And for Jonathan, if you are around, the 
reverberations are talking if you listen.  You may 
have to put your ear to the ground if the fro is too 
much there.....Hope you are well.
 
As far as some of the posts here, I find them 
baffling.  I don't know why they seem so odd to 
me...like they have a bunch of different subtle jabs 
and little wounds and agendas, leaking through the 
sentiments and the consciouss intentions and then 
making this odd hodgepodge effect in my brain, like I 
get fuzzy even trying to recieve what is being said.
 
Maybe it is just me, or maybe we could ask ourselves 
what is making us so angry before we get really 
acerbic and camoflage little verbal nails dying to 
pierce some skin and call it humor or being clever. 
 
I think clever doesn't have to bite, and also, is 
there a reason we need to be clever with each other? I 
mean, if it comes from the heart and it is from a 
silly or fun mood it is one thing, but maybe I'm just 
not at all in the same wave length as a lot of what I 
read.  Maybe I just have no humor and don'g get the 
punch lines. 
 
I don't speak of any post in paticular, but just an 
overall discomfort I have sometimes reading things 
here, but it is my deal, but I wanted to say I had 
mixed feelings about this. 
 
Anyway, Cat, I totally agree with you on the selfish 
thing.  Selfish is the most loving thing I've ever 
done for myself.  I am alive today because of 
decisions I made that many called selfish.  Maybe we 
are all too paranoid of appearances to be truly 
loving, that is, to be selfish, so we conform to a 
false and unfullfilling self--lessness, which is 
mostly LESS because the self isn't there yet, it 
hasn't had the chance to grow to fullness yet.  
 
Just thoughts on form,
 
Stephanie
 
 
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