To: K-list 
Recieved: 2001/05/13  01:33  
Subject: [K-list] (no subject) 
From: Cleocatras
  
On 2001/05/13  01:33, Cleocatras posted thus to the K-list: You dont have to prove anything, you just have to develop safe environment.  
If you are worried about a pedofile, then tell him you know about him, and  
ask him to avoid the situations that provoke his inclination. Tell him you  
would be willing to help him work this out. Tell him you are going to explain  
something to the parents of the children he is involved with. Simply that you  
are uncomfortable with being alone with children because you dont want the  
responsibility, try that line? or another... 
 
I dont care what parent you talk to, each and every one of them would be  
grateful for a tip on who is not "safe". You dont have to get anyone called  
onto the carpet or arrested. But to be honest, you have no idea how relieved  
these pedofiles are to be caught. They are eternally relieved. The fear of  
getting caught is over. Everyone knows what I did so I cant do it anymore. I  
never did want to hurt anyone. etc. I heard this over and over. Families do  
forgive. The therapy I was involved in was for families as well as for the  
pedofile. They stay together, most of them.
 
The reason you can recognize a pedofile is because the patterns are the same  
in almost every case. 
 
Poor socialization 
Low self-esteem and need to feel powerful 
Powerless victims available 
Poor connection to intimacy - emotional intimacy 
Lack of being understood, or being able to talk things out 
Difficulty in social settings, isolation due to lack of connection, or social  
graces 
Little or no friends at all 
Pornography interests 
Previous victimization that is unresolved and unable to be expressed 
Permission by default, aka lack of resolution for what has already happened
 
One of the bigger reasons I believe that women are less often perpetrators is  
because among women it is a fairly open discussion about abuse. Many agencies  
are open and available for therapy and healing and resolution. Domestic  
violence programs will deal with sexual abuse, Incest Survivors is a group  
available to anyone, and many others, not to mention just talk among sisters,  
cousins, friends, etc... women are more apt to discuss their commonalities of  
abuse with others like themselves.
 
As a facilitator for the therapy for sex offenders, I played a rather small  
but important role, by explaining how the cause/effect transpires through  
generations and also the tremendous damage that this type of abuse creates  
over longterm. My job was to get each of them to cry. Cry about their own  
abuse and then how they acted it out by becoming the abuser they hated so  
much. Unresolved anger, suppression of grief. The death of childhood and  
innocence.
 
Except for the fear of what will happen if they get caught, all the other  
things about what they experienced and then what they did, they had a  
tremendous need to express, to connect, to share, and to finally come home  
and feel they were understood. If you can get around the fear issue, you can  
bring them into a place where everyone can be safer, and the cycle can be  
broken. Families do love and forgive if they abandon the coverups and the  
lies and the anger. There is only one way to break the cycle and that is to  
speak out speak up and keep speaking. Let the chips fall... it is all within  
the cycle of healing.
 
What we do not have is therapy for a practicing pedofile who has not been  
caught. Cant exist. Therapists take the oath to report to law enforcement  
when abuse is ocurring. This needs to change somewhat.
 
I feel a pedofile has a right to therapy without going to jail for seeking  
it. I believe there should be a safety net so this can happen. These people  
are not seeking therapy because its just like confession to a crime. My  
solution is for everyone to lighten up a little bit, and make the deal with  
the person seeking help. And here is what it is: Their Significant Other must  
be included in the full disclosure of the problem and must agree to actively  
maintain interventions so their pedofile is not exposed to victims  
unsupervised. The perpetrator should remove himself from any residence where  
children reside and under these two conditions of accountability, his  
disclosure should remain confidential. Probably he should be paying a case  
manager to run a check on this criteria as well.
 
If the perpetrator does not have a significant other, then he should be  
willing to partner with a paid case manager and live in group quarters. 
 
Being willing to get honest with family members is the first step to healing.  
The harshness of the law is what is causing this to not take place. It is the  
injustice of justice.
 
Cat
 
 
  http://www.kundalini-gateway.org 
  
 
 Feel free to submit any questions you might have about what you read here to the Kundalini
mailing list moderators, and/or the author (if given).  Specify if you would like your message forwarded to the list. Please subscribe to the K-list so you can read the responses. 
All email addresses on this site have been spam proofed by the addition of ATnospam in place of the   symbol.
All posts publicly archived with the permission of the people involved. Reproduction for anything other than personal use is prohibited by international copyright law. ©  
This precious archive of experiential wisdom is made available thanks to sponsorship from Fire-Serpent.org.
URL: http://www.kundalini-gateway.org/klist/k2001/k200102546.html
 |