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Recieved: 2001/05/08 08:31
Subject: Re: [K-list] I wonder/name dropping reply 2 .. Sheidi
From: Christopher Wynter
On 2001/05/08 08:31, Christopher Wynter posted thus to the K-list:
At 03:38 PM 8/05/01, you wrote:
>These are the perfect ingredients for the dynamics of CULTS. CW wrote once
>that one man does not make a cult. Wrong...... It need take only one
>leader and the rest are followers.
Only if they choose to be followers ..
the people who chose to work with me
had the freedom to come and go as they chose ..
>They are then first stripped of their
>beliefs and their self-esteem until they know less than ever who they are.
This may be true for infusion of mind control
>Only when they have given up all they know about themselves will those
>"powers" that be infuse the victim with their garbage.
>This is clever in
>its cruelty. What staggers me is that the church which you hate so much CW
>is nothing but a immensly larger cult than the one you're enjoying so much
>in Hobart. Are you quite sure you're not the "Tasmanian Devil"?
Huh .. for there to be a cult, there have to be followers ..
Now, if I had some followers, you might be right ..
problem with your line here is that there are no followers ..
>I knew what you were doing when you talked about this miracle boy
why do you call him a miracle boy .. ?
both of them were just ordinary children ..
there were actually two boys and a girl child involved ..
and about 6 others associated .. who I have not spoken about
you see ..
it is all of the programming, expectations and infusions of beliefs
which make people extraordinary ..
>whom you
>wanted to be raised as a perfectly free child who was not to be scolded but
>left absolutely free rain and then this little guy ran the whole household.
Oh .. I see .. you have it on first hand experience that they were not
corrected ..
and that they had absolutely free reign .. maybe you should
re-read the
material that you are misquoting here ..
> Both his mother and grandmother had to live with this little terror and
>could, in the end not stand to be dominated by this child any longer, a
>child not much older than two. .
You forgot to mention that grandmother is a practicing child psychologist
and social worker who works in the child welfare field with children at risk ..
and that Fiona is an Infants school teacher with a Uni Degree ..
and that there was also a registered nurse living in the house ..
>As you CW would not have been able to do
>either if you had lived with him. But, you were clever. You had those
>people live with him in a differentnt area, a different house didn't you.
No .. as a matter of fact, I lived in the house with both little boys ..
and so did Fiona ..
>So,
>when the little one acted up and screamed bloody murder when he didn't get
>his way, you and Fiona didn't have to listen to his tantrums, did you.
Well .. that's funny .. I don't remember any of the incidents you describe
here .. neither do any of the others involved ..
These are, of course, your words from your experience with little boys .. ?
and you have an intimate and first hand knowledge of the facts of this case
having lived in the house .. don't you ..
>That
>was your "clever" experiment and it backfired on you when the mother and
>grandmother took the child and moved away because they wanted to be free of
>your dominance.
Funny thing was here .. that it was Fiona and I who moved out .. so that
we could do a different kind of work .. for which that house was too small ..
and the grand mother is still living in the house ..
>Now, if you and Fiona had taken this child into your own home and
>experienced with him yourself, then, you might have had my respect for this
Well .. I do have the experience of raising two of my own children ..
a boy and a girl and the same principles were followed ..
and both have tested IQ's in the top 2% ever recorded in the
Western World.
>would have been an immense task of vast patience and sleepless nights and
>wild days with this little tyrant.
I see .. he is now a tyrant .. do you have an issue with little boys by
some chance ..
Now tell me .. where did you get the idea that he was a tyrant .. what is your
source of this erroneous information ..?
Its funny, but all of the people I have spoken to who have had anything to do
with either child have (not knowing I had anything to do with them) commented
on how quiet and gentle and loving they were ..
But, then, from your words, I wonder whether you
could allow the possibility that any male child could
be this way .. especially if you have been preconditioned
into some other belief set ..
You do have my admiration, though, in the manner in which you
have taken the material that I have written on this subject .. extracted
what suited you .. and convoluted these snippets to create a
discordance where there was none.
I admire your diligence in digging into material that was written
over 12 months ago .. its a pity you did not read all of the material
which I have presented on this subject .. in the correct sequence ..
and in the context it was written.
Then, of course, there is the material which I have not made
available .. and some of that might make you really spit ..
CW
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