To: K-list 
Recieved: 2001/04/04  12:41  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Chips on our shoulders 
From: Wim Borsboom
  
On 2001/04/04  12:41, Wim Borsboom posted thus to the K-list: Dear Christopher,
 
You wrote: 
> and as the body is the life support system for the brain...
 
Since when? That is pure conjecture! Conjecture on your mind's part... 
maybe? One can as easily say that the brain and the central nervous system 
is the support system for the body... conjecture as well... 
Good thing that you bring up the hologram approach later... which again 
is...conjecture...
 
> the chip is not on the shoulder .. 
> or an idea of the mind 
> but a dis-ease which affects the vital functioning 
> of every cell of the body .. and creates the energy 
> through which the cell mutates through successive 
> regeneration through a lifetime .. the aging process
 
Do not protect that chip, Christopher, whatever and whereever it may be, 
with the mentalizations that underlie and seem to support your views.
 
> It is this same body hologram which cannot differentiate 
> between biological mother and mother church .. 
> and only responds to the keyword ..
 
If it is a body hologram, that *cannot* differentiate as you say, "between 
biological mother and mother church" so that the person in question STAYS IN 
TROUBLE, why and how *can* it differentiate as you indicate later, between 
Dutch and English expressions and the person in question ALSO STAYS IN 
TROUBLE.... 
Something does not compute in this line of logic, Christopher, or the 
holographic paradigm is flawed.
 
> In other words, if you experienced a trauma 
> from within the Dutch language mindset, 
> the feelings will be disassociated, and thus 
> CANNOT be released from the cells of the body 
> and the brain by a conscious expression or 
> thought process in, for example, English ..
 
Now remember you wrote above: 
> It is this same body hologram which cannot differentiate 
> between biological mother and mother church .. 
> and only responds to the keyword ..
 
So again, if it is a body hologram... which is a very nice concept, and I 
like working from that paradigm as well, knowing full well that it is a 
CONCEPT as workable and handy as it may be,.... so if it is that same body 
hologram, why can this hologram not differentiate between 'this and that' 
(e.g. biological mother and mother church) but it seems 'all of a sudden' 
be able to differentiate when we are talking Dutch or English "language 
mindsets" the trouble
 
There is a flaw in some logic here...
 
You know of the work of Masura Emoto? 
Compare 
http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/aug1/prns/consciouswater.htm 
Dutch text with pictures, with the english translation of the above without 
photos: 
http://spiritofmaat.com/archive/aug1/cwater_du.html
 
About his book "The Messages from Water" I quote  and paraphrase somewhat: 
"...the reality that sound, the spoken and written or even typed word can 
effect the crystalline structure of water molecules. This book describes 
Masura Emoto's experiments with frozen water crystals taken from both 
natural and chemically-treated or polluted water sources, showing how the 
crystalline patterns in frozen water give a message as to the water's basic 
structure and symmetry.... The water crystals also respond to human 
activity, the written or typed word, music and the vibrationary influences 
from aromatic oils.
 
What I'm trying to say and support with the above is that communication in 
whatever form: 
    any language, written or spoken, 
    verbal or by email or recording, 
    read or heard or felt, 
    by touch or taste, 
    Dutch or double Dutch, 
    communication through smell or taste 
    or any other transmitted frequency from the electro magnetic spectrum, 
    as well as emotional communications of love, trust, hatred or fear, 
etc., 
    expressed in the passed, now or in some future 
all that can be liberated in this current moment through mysterious 
processes by the whole human without the hard constraints as locked into 
mtDNA...or some kind of chip...
 
Fiona wrote: 
> Yes it is and no matter how far away you go .. 
> you will still carry the mtDNA that links you to them
 
Christopher again 
>  In other words, if you experienced a trauma 
>  from within the Dutch language mindset, 
>  the feelings will be disassociated, and thus 
>  CANNOT be released from the cells of the body 
>  and the brain by a conscious expression or 
>  thought process in, for example, English ..
 
You will be a amazed what what a healing brain and a freeing mind can do 
when supported by a will that is separating itself from constraining and 
strangling environments.
 
> Thus, semantics is nothing more 
>  than a masturbation of the mind .. 
>  and the only person fooled 
>  is the one masturbating 
>  in order to try and thrill himself
 
Sure Christopher, sure 
I speak for myself, will you?
 
Potty problems and masturbation... guy things... mother things... or 'mother 
church' things? 
Come on now get off it.
 
Love, Wim
 
 
 
 
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