To: K-list 
Recieved: 2001/03/27  10:10  
Subject: Re: [K-list] C'mon lurkers 
From: Llewellyn
  
On 2001/03/27  10:10, Llewellyn posted thus to the K-list: ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "percyval" <percyvalATnospamrcn.com> 
To: "kundalini-list" <K-list > 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 9:35 AM 
Subject: Re: [K-list] C'mon lurkers
 
> WHAT KIND OF F%#KIN A$%HOLE THING IS THAT TO SAY!!!??? 
>
 
    :)  just what i felt that is all -  (it is a tough job but somebody has 
to do it)
 
>your  words ring true... this list can be a bit of tough love at 
> times,
 
    There is a difference between tough love and just being tough or 
displaying prowess or power or knowledge.  The intentionality is the key.  I 
have had all of the tough love that i could take and  those words were used 
by my family when they threw me into a mental hospital because of k 
awakening - 
"you never understood tough love" my mother said - i understand plenty - i 
understood the intention
 
    i think most people intuitively feel the difference emanating from the 
posts - as has been discussed many times on the list, we read between and 
under the words - many times imperfectly - but we are k  - that is what we 
do - there are many flare-ups due to reading the underlying message and 
calling someone on it - did so - did not - and on it goes - who is calling 
who on what - the surface words  keep on reflecting; the message's soul 
absorbs all
 >and some smokin heat too... but there are lots of gentler lists 
> for folks who want them...
 
    yes perhaps I need a gentler list - are there any that are not wrapped 
up in some religious mumbo-jumbo?
 
> 
> and there's also many kind voices here... like yours... and that 
> beautifully sensitive sheep in alpha-wolf's clothing... heheheheh... 
> (thank you, Mystress... you do a wonderful job of moderating mixed with 
> non-moderating)... she usually gives you what you need... and sometimes 
> a little more too, as a generous bonus whipping... *grin*... and of 
> course, her many gentler posts of wisdom from the heart... 
> 
   I appreciate Angelique's unique wisdom - and sometimes I may ask for a 
whipping - however that is not my thing and although am meek i do not bow 
down to goddess in any form.
 
    My voice is not usually kind, although perhaps it is unique -
 
> and of course, we have that blissful crispy cool refreshing bubbling 
> mountain stream of delicious k-fired loving compassion co-moderator, 
> Hillary... she does so much for this place... thank you so much, 
> sweetness... 
>
 
    Yes, Hillary should be recognized as co-moderator and she is ever on the 
watch to provide compassion and comforting words to the new posters, 
delivered with no sting.  And she polls us all, to keep us honest and to try 
to further the understanding of k.  Hillary is a blessing.
 
> and so many incredible people on this list that just let er rip from 
> their guts! i would hate for them to soften their K-inspired wise 
> madness into fluffly white light bunny sterile kisses to make everything 
> all better... 
>
 
Nor would I - 
    Since fluff does not make anything better -  and i certainly do not mind 
the honest guts that are shown on the list -  nor the flare-ups that are 
inevitable when working through issues. 
    Perhaps though i hate the wolfs hiding in sheep's clothing - 
unfortunately, for the fairy tale to be complete they too must occasionally 
be present.
 
> hey... this place Rocks and Rolls... and is alot of fun, although 
> sometimes it hurts, too... and even most of the asskickins that 
> occasionally happen here are just a form of Goddess using a 2x4 trying 
> to knock off whatever is in front of someone's face preventing them from 
> seeing the obvious... there are always plenty of dissenting voices here 
> to counter-balance things... that's one reason we seem to battle so much 
> here... 
> 
> warmly, 
> 
> percyval 
>
 
    Well, the list changes and morphs into whatever it needs to be at the 
time - or least that is how i perceive it, having been somewhat on and off 
the list over a few years, and remembering another voice from the past 
saying a similar thought.  It is also just my general perception that the li 
st seems less welcoming to newbies than it once was.  But it is what it 
needs to be -  whatever that says.
 
    Also i am only looking at a narrow window which is probably not 
representative.  So, no need to get your dander up, or come to the defense 
of the list - if we are not allowed to voice a general dissenting impression 
than indeed the list is a pretty tame place. But i have, so it is not.
 
Llewellyn
 
 
  
 
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