To: K-list 
Recieved: 2001/03/22  02:38  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Draining the Brain 
From: Wim Borsboom
  
On 2001/03/22  02:38, Wim Borsboom posted thus to the K-list: Dear Christopher, 
    Ok 
  now...
 
Sylvia wrote 
she wrote 
 she wrote 
she wrote 
  she wrote 
 she wrote: 
"Too much too soon Christopher for us here now."
 
Now she may not speak for everybody, 
    but I sense in the support from some others that she is 
talking about something that is quickly 
  becoming a CONSENSUAL experience 
 that you are not experiencing 'hearing wise' 
   because you keep doing the talking...
 
it might be wise talk 
    but not wise to talk 
 it might be wise talk 
 but not wise to talk 
  it might be wise talk 
but not wise to talk 
it might be wise talk 
    but not wise to talk 
 it might be wise talk 
 but not wise to talk 
  it might be wise talk 
but not wise to talk 
it might be wise talk 
    but not wise to talk 
 it might be wise talk 
 but not wise to talk 
  it might be wise talk 
but not wise to talk
 
This whole mom dad thing... or as you say: 
>(snip)  "mother" and "father" defines for us every relationship (snip)
 
Sometimes a child wished they would just shut up 
    that they would stop mothering and fathering 
 'relating' their mother-ness and father-ness
 
(Note: I'm not saying mother-li-ness and father-li-ness.)
 
"Mother" and "father" often just don't shut up or... when they do, they also 
close the door on you. 
Two very effective ways to violate a child privacy and freedom of 
movement... and to make it more effective most often these actions are done 
sequentially and repeatedly... 
Children are indeed repeatedly raped of their experience of REAL 
RELATIONSHIP
 
So CW, in that father role 
and Fiona in that mother role 
just for a little while 'shut up' :-), 
but do not close that door :-)
 
>  It can be shown from consensual experiences that the 
>  right-brain (reflex) relationship we have to the keywords 
>  "mother" and "father" defines for us every relationship 
>  we face in this world.
 
You might  be right but just hold your tongue... 
... for a while...
 
And what if you were not right it would have been good to hold  your tongue 
anyway.
 
I already mentioned to you off list that the bicameral brain is a concept 
(sure we have two brain halves) that I have come to doubt the validity of...
 
And 
and 
and 
and 
and 
as we are not using our brains anyways, 
(as mother or father so often tell us:-) 
how could what you are stating 
have any influence on our being? (joke ok? hehehe)
 
Christopher and Fiona, stop behaving like 'father' and 'mother'. 
And... show us your faces before your mother and father were born. (after a 
Zen koan) 
And... in case that is difficult show us some pictures of the two of you in 
happy abandon... 
As someone asked before "Play with us... " 
"Julie moeten ons niet zo bedillen" (Dutch)
 
Love, 
\/\///\/\
 
OF COURSE ALL THIS ALSO APPLIES TO ME SO I WILL 'SHUT UP' A BIT FOR A WHILE 
TOO...
   
 
 
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