To: K-list 
Recieved: 2001/03/15  13:21  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Fiona's Mother 
From: Wim Borsboom
  
On 2001/03/15  13:21, Wim Borsboom posted thus to the K-list: Dear José,
 
You wrote: 
>Still, I cannot agree with this: 
(Fiona's) 
> > My post wasn't just about my mother.  It was also about the 
> > genetic mother in every female who will not allow another female 
> > to have what she does or can not.
 
In spite of all the admiration I have for Christopher and Fiona and their 
work, the efficacy of it... the radicalness even (that I appreciate), I also 
have a slight problem with the "genetic thing". Although, I hold my opinions 
in abeyance and for now give them the benefit of the doubt... 
But I sympathise with your remark José, but a verbalization of my nagging 
uneasiness and a solution to it has not come up yet or.... is maybe now 
taking place... let's see what I come up with...
 
I'm working on this... As I said in a previous post, egos get 'inherited 
somehow'... I should have said 'transferred through 'engrams', most of the 
time in the form of words: transferred when impressionable and vulnerable 
humans are undergoing violations to their integrity, often when unconscious 
or crying or in a hypnotized state (brought about by fear from 'if...then' 
conditioning). 
Emotional vibrations AND their concomitant words, impressions, gestures and 
judgemental sentences (as in 'judicial sentencing') are often transferred to 
unsuspecting still vulnerable little children who are under stress and have 
no choice but to get the words(etc) engraved into some part of their brains.
 
*This is of course supposed to be a positive thing as impressionable 
children in trustful relationships and situations learn that way. (Very 
Montessori)*
 
In this tragic context though, vulnerable - in situations of violation - 
people negatively absorb the  words and/or smells, pinches, slaps, visual 
impressions, sentences, etc engrammatically. 
Those engrams just sit there (in appropriate spots of their cerebral cortex) 
waiting to be keyed at some in-opportune moment, the moments when anxieties 
arise, stressful activities, compulsions, etc..
 
*Of course again, this is supposed to be a positive thing as people in safe 
and (naive maybe)trustful relationships and situations act out or play life 
that way. Life is supposed to be that way. (Very Montessori)*
 
I do not think genetics have to do with it, or at least we do not have to go 
that far... the engram approach process works for me.
 
(I know there is a bit Dianetics from L. Ron Hubbard in this, but that man 
had some great insights and in those days when we needed it, it worked well 
for me and my wife... (I am not commenting in any way here on the Church of 
Scientology.)
 
People who adhere too strongly to the 'genetic thing' are hopefully not 
right in saying that some genetic changes do take place sooner or later... I 
do not want to get into some dangerous implications around the issue of... 
'eugenics... That is a horrible thing especially when 'blas-thanasia' is 
around the corner. I am told that it was actually DONE not too long ago even 
here in Canada with mental patients in Alberta. There are court cases, there 
is much hidden.
 
Anyway, if the genetic thing were found to be true, we should be able to 
medicate eventually. Or are we then even further off the right track?
 
Oei, grave matters...!
 
Let's stay on the life side with love and personal choice (I think when it 
comes to 'personal-choice-euthanasia' and the 
'right-to-choose-early-pregnancy-abortion' we are still OK.) This might be 
touchy, but those Dutch are not afraid to touch on these things... We 
(overall) have learned enough from both ends and in between... and we remain 
compassionately pragmatic... personal positive freedom of choice overall.
 
(CW, I'm not putting you in that potentially dangerous category of eugenics, 
you know that)
 
Love, Wim
  
 
 
 
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