To: K-list 
Recieved: 2001/03/09  08:51  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Grail / kundalini 
From: jo jo
  
On 2001/03/09  08:51, jo jo posted thus to the K-list: Just a few musings.
 
"When you observe an individual entering the 
state of religious ecstasy known in the East as 
nirvikalpa samadhi, he or she appears little changed 
from the perspective of an observer. Yet we are 
informed from many sources that he or she is actually 
experiencing unlimited consciousness first-hand."
 
When I work with clients this is not an uncommon 
experience. It's only after the treatments session, 
often not until the next session, that they report 
experience bliss.
 
In spiritual traditions there is the experience that 
"enlightenment" is passed on from teacher to student, 
master to disciple.
 
When I allow my body to open and energy to flow, it 
facilitates the same in clients.  Like guitar strings 
tuned to the same note. Pick on and the other 
resonates. When we are in the presence of someone who 
is in a congruient state, it's easier for us to 
experience that same state. This applies to K as well.
 
But the experience is one thing, understanding is 
another. On experience bliss, clients may focus on the 
orgasmic, sexual aspect or note rather than the full 
symphony. This then leads to transference and counter 
transference.
 
My sense is that K is being experienced my more and 
more people, but out of context. This leads to 
heartache and mischief in the world, instead of peace.
 
As in relationship great sex is not enought, dialogue, 
compassion, forgiveness, constant willingness to learn 
are essential for the relationship to deepen.
 
My sense is that K is being awakened, the issue is 
sound teaching and guidence. K is not enought.
 
In the christian sense, K is the spirit. Without the 
spirt everything is just dead ritual. Spirit alone 
leads to mischief (we can be dead sure and dead 
wrong).
 
We need the spirit and sound teaching.
 
Namaste, 
Om Shakti, Om Shakti, Om Shakti Om 
Aadhi Shakti, Maha, Shakti, Para Shakti Om
 jojo
  
 
  
 
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