To: K-list 
Recieved: 2001/02/28  12:17  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Entity? 
From: Druout
  
On 2001/02/28  12:17, Druout posted thus to the K-list: In a message dated 2/27/2001 10:33:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
lillymataATnospammsn.com writes:
 
> I believe that they tried to extract my soul while I was sleeping, often, 
to 
> leave room for their tramp spirits to inhabit my body while I was sleeping.
 
Dear Anne Elizabeth,
 
I too have felt these "spirits,"  but I "translate" them positively.  You 
might want to check into the following poll we did on entities:
 
<files/K-List%20Polls/Spiritsex>files/K-List%20Polls/Spiritsex
 
poll.txt
 
I feel that these experiences are so incredibly compelling that it is almost 
impossible to "undo" our initial reaction to them.  What we have "decided" 
they are, becomes "truth" personified. Having experienced the overwhelming 
joy/bliss of these energies, I am all the more aware of their power to 
occasionally *produce* conclusions that they are "evil."
 
Lee Sannella in *kundalini Experience* says something interesting in this 
regard, "The signs and symptoms usually described, such as shifts in emoting 
and thinking as well as the experience of visions and the hearing of voices, 
appear to be largely determined by personal factors (the "set") and external 
circumstances (the "setting").
 
The Fact that the "setting" in this case is your being surrounded by 
neighbors doing "black" magic is interesting :))  : "I was living alone in 
the inner city and my lovely neighbors did rituals, voodo, black magic"  You 
were already alone and afraid and vulnerable, I presume.
 
It is how we "translate" these experiences--how we proceed to act on what we 
"think" they are telling us, that make the results good or evil or perceived 
to be good or evil.
 
As most list members  know, ultimately, I do not believe evil personified 
exists--only evil deeds by men who "know not what they do."
 
And I think we must be made aware that these energies are a positive force 
basically, but that our *interpretation* of them can make them evil.  Common 
sense must prevail.
 
The same applies to the "voices" we and historical figures have heard--among 
them  Jim Jones, Joan of Arc, Moses, (was it Jacob who nearly slaughter his 
son?), Rasputin, etc. etc.--in other words those overwhelmed by these "god is 
speaking to me" energies, have the capability to "translate" these energies 
in ways that affect society both positively and negatively, depending on the 
experiencer's background.  (And the outcome can be seen as positive or 
negative depending on how history sees it in hindsight).  Unfortunately, one 
of the "triggers" to these energies is abuse in childhood (Rasputin is a case 
in point here).  Obviously this can produce unfortunate results.  The 
"setting" again.  :))
 
What is absolutely true is the charismatic power these energies in still in 
the individual, and the compelling nature of how we perceive them.
 
Most of us, alas, simply are not enlightened enough to translate these 
energies properly.
 
My views only.  :))
 
Love, Hillary
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