To: K-list
Recieved: 2001/02/11 21:28
Subject: [K-list] your opinion on healing
From: Vickie Novak
On 2001/02/11 21:28, Vickie Novak posted thus to the K-list:
Dear Angelique, First of all I asked for your advice because I felt that
you would
give me the truth as you see it and I appreciate you taking the time
that you
have. I am very grateful to you for helping me to become more clear on
this.
Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
> At 09:14 PM 2/10/01, Vickie Novak wrote:
>
> Huh. I wondered, myself why I put that in there.. but I guess it
was
> perfection.. it hit a nerve. The heart of the issue.
>
> You are part native, you already told me you don't want to give
up the
> stuff. Do you really want to give up your computer, your modern home,
etc?
> Nobody can change what our ancestors did.. but blame solves nothing.
> Victimhood does not empower anyone.
I do not want to blame. I do not want to be a victim. I want healing.
> The natives don't have any monopoly on that. It has happened all
over
> the world, to cultures through out history. It happened to my own
Celtic
> heritage, as well. Christianity at swordpoint, witches burned. Many of
my
> distant relatives who stayed in Europe ended up in Siberia, courtesy
of Stalin.
> Most cultures didn't respond with suicide. To be human, is to
adapt.
Yes.
> Yup. Happens all over.. happened to the entire population of
China..
> Tibet, the list is long.
Why does this have to continue happening?
>
> Talk to the Jews who survived the Holocaust.
Yes.
> > To deal
> >with the alcohol that is killing you and those around you.
>
> Nobody forces anybody to drink.
Yes.
> In Canada it used to be illegal to
> sell alcohol to a native... the natives complained, it was
> unconstitutional.. so now it is legal again.
I am sad about this
> Do realize, the history of
> native contact in Canada is very different than that of the US.
>From what I have heard there were no treaties signed but I don't know
much about
how things have worked there.
> > And there is
> >more.
>
> All this, from someone who said they didn't want to make anybody
feel
> guilty.. are you sure? Sure sounds like you do, to me. What is all
this
> really about, then?
I really don't want to make others feel guilty. Really. I am looking for
ways to
deal with this that really brings about healing.
> What is the point, of clinging to an attitude of victimhood,
except to
> make people feel guilty, to wield the sword of the righteousness of
> victims? Whom does it serve?
Yes. I guess I didn't even realize that I was holding an attitude of
victimhood.
> Plains natives did, so did the Inuit, in summer. You want to
have your
> cake and eat it too..
yes please with lots of ice cream. Could you make it chocolate? Ok bad
joke but I
need to lighten up. :) Literally.
> > Change is
> >constant but will we ever evolve beyond killing and oppression in how
we
> >interact with each other?
>
> I have never encountered as much anti-white racism, as I did,
visiting
> my native friend. I triggered all kinds of ancient negative black
magic
> booby trap shit set up by long dead disgruntled Shamans, simply by
virtue
> of my European DNA. It was a surprise to me, because there was no
> prejudice, on my side.
This also makes me sad. It's more of the same. I asked my professor in
class the
other day- If those who are minorities now came to power would they
actually have
more wisdom in how they treat people. How does this kind of stuff
change. I don't
agree with it from either side.
> Now you are spewing more of the same.. not magic,
> just the same old same old .. Gratitude heals. Go ahead and downplay
the
> value of central heating.. you don't want to go backwards, but you
don't
> put any value on what was given.
I am grateful for central heating especially right now. There are times
when I am
more grateful than others. This time right now is a time of energies
swirling
through me and I feel allot of confusion. I'm hoping to move things
through and
come out on the other side with more understanding aand healing.
> When do we live side by side with respect and
> >celebration of our differences?
>
> Good question. Do you think it is possible, when one side keeps
blaming
> the other for their condition?
Probably not.
> All this good guy bad guy stuff.. it's not
> coming from the white folks.
Are you kidding? It comes from both sides.
> Here in BC the government is spending billions
> in reparation.. how much acknowledgement do you want? Then the natives
turn
> around and start logging on the lands they received back.. go figger.
They
> go fishing when there is a ban on fishing to protect the dwindling
supply,
> just because it is their "right".. co-operation has to work both ways.
I agree that co-operation has to work both ways. There is enough stupid
stuff
going on on both sides.
> > Why can't we see the beauty in the
> >differences instead of fearing them? With confusion, Vickie
>
> Why indeed? Who is afraid? Who is claiming victimhood? Whom does
it
> serve?
> Be well, Vickie.. look for perfection. Blessings...
Thank you I will. It feels like some of this has moved through me
during the day
today. With Love, Vickie
>
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