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Recieved: 2001/02/05 18:18
Subject: Re: [K-list] about 'Dilemma'
From: Mystclwon


On 2001/02/05 18:18, Mystclwon posted thus to the K-list:

In a message dated 2/2/2001 1:57:38 AM Central Standard Time,
aurasphereATnospamhome.com writes:
<< On the other hand JB, it is possible to turn those clichés into mantras,
 they can drive you so crazy that you will go for instant enlightenment. You
 want Satori to hit you... Am not joking... it is very Zen like...
... Then the work starts, but you don' have to consider that now... >>

Wim...very interesting and thanks for the insights. A few weeks back I came
across a book 'The Power of Now' by Eckhart Tolle. (has anyone read him?)
He gets into some depth about how enlightenment is already ours, but
typically we avoid the now moment by allowing our mind to focus on the
past/present; about how the now moment is all we really ever have and is all
that's ever real; and that our constant seeking/questioning is exactly that
which is preventing our realization of enlightment, etc. All concepts
(cliches) that I've come across before but for some reason the way they were
presented gave me cause to wonder... and experiment. I decided to give
considerably more focus to where my mind was... to observe my thought flow.
I was amazed at how difficult it was to stay in the moment... all the
mini-mind trips, catching myself and then coming back to present. This was
all good and fine initially, and I learned much about personal avoidance
patterns -- but after about a week of continued observation, my mind was
getting just a bit 'pissed off' to put it mildly.... It was like there was a
war going on inside of me...I wasn't prepared for the turmoil and it kind of
freaked me out. A few days later, in the interest of continued sanity (?), I
declared a temporary peace treaty...

In any case, when I read your post it reminded me that it was a temporary
surrender -- but, before I engage in the next battle, I'm thinking I need to
be better prepared and create some space to allow the erruption that will
surely follow.

Wim/List... Any suggestions on how to go about realization/surrender at a
reasonable pace while still maintaining a fairly normal and functioning
existance.. (eg. carry water /chop wood?) My first K experience took me way
outside my norms and though in retrospect, I know it was all for the good,
I'm a bit leary of letting go....but know it's mine to do eventually.

Again, thanks for the spark...appreciate your comments/thoughts.

Colette


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